Considering analog...but nervous


Well, I've been here before. Once again, I'm thinking of venturing into the Analog world, but before doing so, I wanted to pose a few questions to fellow agoners to make sure my head (ears?) are in the right place.

Some Background: My current setup consists of a Modwright Transporter, Musical Fidelity KW 500 (hybrid tube pre/SS Amp), and Focal/JM 1027be speakers. My entire current collection is digital and I have NEVER owned Vinyl before NOR have I ever heard a high-end Analog setup.

My Tastes/musical likes: I am all about soundstage and imaging. Vocal accuracy is hugely important and instrument placing (hence, imaging) are part of what I look for when listening. Genre wise, mostly rock, folk, acoustic and blues. Some jazz as well. I generally try to stick to labels that produce good-sounding material...not over-compressed garbage.

On with the questions:

1. One of the biggest things that has kept me from trying Vinyl thus far is the concern of excessive hiss and crackle/pop that vinyl is known for. Is it safe to assume that purchasing new Vinyl and played on a higher quality setup will reduce (eliminate?) the pops and crackle sounds? I have no problem purchasing exclusively new vinyl, knowing full well that the process of shopping used is what draws so many to this market...

2. If I purchase new vinyl, only play it on a decent player, and store it properly, will I still have to clean it? How expensive is a cleaning machine? Are there (reasonable), less expensive alternatives to a cleaning machine?

3. Based on my integrated (tube-pre,SS amp) and speakers, are these a good match for Vinyl? Does anyone know if the KW 500 Phono input is adequate for a good turntable? My digital system has a tendency to be on the bright side for a lot of material, but not everything. Strangly, even at 31 years old, I can still hear up to around 19Khz so I'm a bit picky about the highs...

4. How complicated is the setup of the TT? Being that I've never worked wtih it before, I'm somewhat intimidated by the "setup" requirements of the equipment. What are the core requirements/knowledge to properly setup a TT.

5. And finally, the most subjective question of all. If I had a budget of about $1,000-$1,500 for a TT, Tonearm and Cartridge, what would be a good starting place? I'd obviously be looking for used here from Agon.

I know this was a long post so thanks for hanging in and reading it all :-). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

-gh0st
fatgh0st
Racquel, you are so spot on with your posts, it's scary. Scary good. Thanks for being here.
So, I'm heading out to the local HiFi store tomorrow and I'm going to listen to a few TTs. Namely, the Music Hall MMF5.1SE and the Denon Special Edition. I will probably end up purchasing the MMF5.1 as I have 30 days to play with it in home with a full refund if I don't like it.

Any thoughts on this particular Music Hall table? Anyone with any experience with the Denon? $2,500 for a Denon seems high from what I've seen, but then again, I don't really know what I'm talking about :-)

-gh0st
My feeling is that something like a mint VPI Scoutmaster or entry-level Basis, purchased used, would be a better route, particularly because they can be upgraded. In addition, both can take a really high-end arm and cartridge (and the arms that come with each are good arms). The Music Hall and Denon have defined performance ceilings and are more in the style of the Rega tables, i.e., plug and play.
Current recently listed tables for sale here are: a Garrard 301 complete...Oracle complete, etc. in your relative price range. I suppose it's a given that you have checked the ads here.
Hey Fatghost,

I say go for it. I just did. I should have my analog set up in the next two weeks.

In your original post you mention that your digital tends to be on the bright side on some material. Well that could be your digital source but mostly it is the digital software. I run into the same problem with some cd's on my DCS Puccini which I think is a great digital source and many agree with me. The issue isn't so much my player as it is what is being played.

Here is an example. I like Van Halen. Notice I said like not love but they can be very entertaining to listen to when in the mood. I have all of their CD's and most are so bright and compressed that it is not worth listening to. (Same goes for U2. UGGGGGH!) I recently did a direct comparison of 1984 on CD to STOCK LP and the LP is so much better. There is good digital out now but it is much more difficult to get audiophile or even higher quality ROCK recordings in digital versus LP.

PS. It is possible to get quiet vinyl. My dealer has a Monk cleaner and I can tell you that vinyl played back after a cleaning is so quiet you would swear it was digital until the music starts. :) I would ask the veteran analog guru's for advice on what to use. The Monk units are quite expensive.