Cardas Cold Forging


Has anyone tried the new Cardas option to have their speaker cable and connectors cold forged, making for a solid connection with no "connective" points with solder, etc. Sounds good in theory for line transmission, but can you hear any difference? If so what? I'm using Cardas Golden Reference.
pubul57
the copper wires are pressed together and extruded. they are in effect one piece. to get them apart a chisel would be needed. are they melted? maybe, maybe not but there is heat evident. how about fused?
when the connector is crimped to the wire bundle, just enough pressure is used to squeeze the air out between them. the second stage reqires much higher pressure to fuse the components into one piece.
we are talking about speaker wire termination and not conducting electricity. but george assures me this connection would be fine for that too.
best, bobby
we are talking about speaker wire termination and not conducting electricity. but george assures me this connection would be fine for that too.
best, bobby
Bobbyapalkovic (Answers | This Thread)

They can be cut open quite easily, and that would reveal they are not fused. I didn't know anyone used a chisel to check something like this.

For speaker termination, they should get by.

As far as they are not for electricity, speakers need that to make music.

I'm glad I didn't make the claim.
H, are you usually this argumentative about things you cannot disprove? your knowledge of crimping may be considerable but this is not the same process. mr cardas has worked for years to make this a considerable improvement of the norm.
and we are discussing speaker wire terminations here and nothing else. for those that have had this done, they like it and that is all that matters. as i said, first hand knowledge is everything. now is you want to purchase a pair of cold forged speaker cables and chisel them apart which which george said would need to be done, then you would have some first hand knowledge.
have a nice day.
ok?
best, b
Here is a nice pic of the cut open connection. Some possible evidence that the strands and the connector seem totally fused...

http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=insights&content_id=43&pagestring=Compression+Die+Forging+(video)

From Cardas' Website:
"Two Stage, Compression Die Forging
Clear and Clear Beyond speaker cables have truly forged connections, where the copper of the cable and the copper of the connector become one solid piece. This connection eliminates the Eddy Currents found in other types of terminations by forging a perfect homogeneous flow of conductor and connector."
04-15-11: Jfrech
the strands and the connector seem totally fused...

There is a huge gap between seem, and is. They are not, at least in any terms of metallurgy. It is a crimp.