New Esoteric P02 D02


Hello,

Seems like there is a new set up separates from Esoteric. The P02 D02. Hven't seen any info out there at all, but it is for sale already at retailers. Not a substitute of the P03 D03 as expected, that are still selling as well, but a new category in between de 01s and 03s. DACs and inputs seem like an upgrade of the K01.

Anyone has any info, or heard of this? You can read about it at Esoteric parent company home page (in Japan but in English).

Price in Europe is 3.000 Euros higher than the 03s per unit (so +6000 EUros higher in total)

Any feedback, info news?

Thanks
Eli
eelii08
To Colekat:

Ask for exhibit stock from your dealer. You can get a very good deal. I would go for the 9500 if it is available as exhibit stock. I would do the dac, transport then the clock.
To Eli,

How is the mid band with 9500 compared to other cables you tried or stock cables ? The 7300 I used is great on bass but darkened and flattened the mid band.
Tom what Emre suggests is worth trying.

Regarding 9300 or 9500 one by one hard for me to tell. I do not have first hand experience with the 9300. Bit have read good things about it. There is a nice review in the web comparing the 9300 with the 9500.

If you go 9500 I would probably do first DAC or transport and then clock. I did all 3 at once so cant say for sure but that makes sense.

Emre the mid in the 9500 is great. You hear much more music with these cables, not just details or better bass. For how people describe the 7300 I think the 9500 is a big change. However I had rarely heard calling the 7300 as dark before, so may be worth checking in your system.
To Eli,

Thanks Eli. The word dark is misleading perhaps, because it makes you think the top end. What I mean it makes the mid rather flat and a bit shelved down compared to bass. So, as if the mid a bit in the dark.
I compared with Furutech PC and also Shunyata Anaconda.
As you know my system consists of Soulution 700 monos and 720 pre with Stella Utopia speakers, they dont tendency to sound dark, but they are truly neutral and have tendency to reveal any small change or any weaknesses. They are neither warm nor bright.
My second system is my older Krell KAV 400xi amp and Focal 907be speakers. Now the second system has tendency to sound bright, forward and lean. In the second system 7300 balanced some things better for ex.
7300 and 7100 are mid line PC cables. I am sure 9300 or 9500 will sound better. It is just some people preferred older 9100 better and found 9300 too revealing in some systems.
To Guido,

I know this forum is not about the Rowland and amplifiers, but how does 625 sound compared to the previous Rowland amps with conventional power supply ?
I am asking because it is using Switching Mode Power Supply and Soulution has an upgrade for 700 mono blocks converting the conventional power supply to SMPS. Some people say SMPS may sound bass heavy with softer top, some others say mid band and treble may sound less natural due to some ultra sonic noise involved, etc. It is a very useful and cost/space effective technology that was around some time but it was not that popular before in high end. It looks like it is 2013/14's trend with some brands like Burmester, Rowland, Soulution to use it with conventional amp stages. So what are your findings ?
I also apologize from the forum and Eli for side tracking it.