....expanding from car audio into home...need help


i certainly need help...tons of opinions desired...

alright...i've spent about 3 years forming great and wonderful opinions on car audio.

however, none of the brands that i use in my car make home stuff.....well, i take that back...nakamichi does. i'm sure that car audio stuff wouldn't work as well in the home as home audio would....

however....i don't want to jump into the higher end stuff for my apartment that i have in my car.

i'd like to get a *decent* reciever/tuner (i don't even know what the difference is) that i can hook up to my new bigscreen. (my roommates and i went in on a new toshiba 50" projection)

so...about what would i be looking to spend for a quality, low priced *thing* that will get me surround sound (and i assume that the new digital thingy is better than 5.1 surround?)

so...help me out guys. :) i know that it's all INCREDIBLY subjective....but, i'm pretty sure that i don't want to buy anything that they sell at best buy or circuit city, so i gotta get on the web to get help.

i appreciate it. :)
onlyshawn
I just made the same step you might possibly make...I was always a big car stereo buff & swore by Nakamichis old stuff such as the pa304 amp and many other Nak components that made up my system. In the car audio realm, Nak is one of the better ones out there, however, in home audio, I dont think they will quite have the sound you are looking for and are definitely not really high end IMHO. I got rid of my prized car stereo when I sold my car in 1995 and have missed the sound ever since. I built a couple systems since then and still couldnt match the sound...however, since you are moving from high end car audio to high end home like myself you may find what I am doing interesting. I first bought a pair of decent speakers. You can find plenty of great speakers that you have probably never heard of used for 500-1000. I then bought a used Bryston B-60 on a Dr's recommendation (he has 4 systems totalling over 250k) The amp was a little over 800 and let me tell you...I would trade this 2 channel sound with home theater (since I use it for music equally) for any Denon NAD Nakamichi etc etc. I originally demoed my B&W CDM1nt's with a Denon AVR5800. The 60 watt (mine specs at 70) BLOWS the Denon away...I know that I have only just entered the realm of high end audio and am pretty close to the bottom of the ladder but If you think that car audio can be addictive, wait till you have a taste of this candy.

Enjoy
one thing I beleive is important is that the center's sound matches the mains. For this reason, I would stick with the same brand/line for these 3 speakers. Also, I have a pretty high end Yamaha receiever, and I can tell you that although there are some very good 4 ohm speakers out there that you would be better off getting 8 ohm speakers if your going to drive them with a receiver. I love dynaudio audience speakers but frankly they just don't mate that well to receivers in opinion because of this.

There are a ton of speakers out there that would be a good match for the system it appears your trying to build. first you need to decide if you want direct or dipole speakers. For dipole I would chose Definitive Tech, but I prefer direct speakers so I'd recommend Paradigm. They are great for modest priced home theater, and thier studio line is actually pretty good with music too. They are not really considered high end by alot of people on this board, but they do offer a good price to performance ratio. I have a feeling they will offer the sound your looking for.

I don't agree with Bwyoung, as I have stated in many threads in the past, I don't feel a center channel is a must have for HT. With properly set up quality speakers a center channel simply isn't needed, as long as you don't have a coffin(TV) between them. Also more money doesn't equal better quality in the subwoofer department, that being said I would rather have a good REL sub then a Wilson Audio XS subwoofer.

I used to be huge into car audio too Onlyshawn, my last car system consisted of Clarion DRX-9255 head unit, zapco signal processors/eq's(eq-30sl's), C2k-6.0x Zapco stereo amps, Focal Audiom TLR tweeters, Focal Audiom 6W mids, and Focal utiopia 27vx subs, the component set had a super sounding custom cross over network made for them(hovland, and solen components), the components where in custom kick panels. Total price of the system was close to 30k but it was nice, I have since realized true hi-fi simply isn't available in a car, and in my latest car I just have the upgraded factory system(I must be getting old) and am happy with it. I'd rather invest money into home audio, better results and much less risk.

Glad to have you here at Audiogon,
Tim
Let's see, do you wanna hear the voices or the BOOM BOOM's better? Tim, yer such a guy! I bet you can make all those guy explosion noices, too!
So tell me how would you set up a 5 channel HT WITHOUT having the bloody TV in the middle? I just don't get it...aj
Angela you make me laugh(in a good way), I have a front projector with a screen that mounts on the wall more than 3ft behind my speakers, its not really that much of a trick!
;)
Tim