To tone control or not to tone control


I recently stepped up to a Conrad Johnson PFR preamp to mate with my CJ MF-2200 amp (200 wpc). Was previously running an Adcom GTP-450 pre/tuner which had bass/treble controls which help to compensate for those recordings which are recorded poorly. Though the CJ PFR sounds really good on most of my cd's there are some of my favorite artists whose recordings are really pitiful. Is there a good tone control which I can use on the PFR to use for these poor recordings? Is there a way to connect both preamps to one system. I do have an older cdp that I could connect to the Adcom preamp for the poor cd's and use the main system for the good stuff. I have also thought of trying a subwoofer to help with filling in the bottom end since most of the poor recordings are R&B and Rock N'Roll and that is where they seem to be lacking the most. The rest of my system consists of a Sherwood Newcastle 980 cdp and Infinity RS 5000 speakers (12 yrs old) and next to be replaced. As always your help is appreciated
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My problem is now solved: this Accuphase preamp is just killer! It's so good that the featured tone controls are not even necessary most of the time. But in those cases where I do use them, in addition to bass & treble knobs I now have available buttons for hi & lo cut, hi & lo boost, loudness comp. and a Phase Invert button which is just awesome! I've never had that feature available to me before; the difference (depending upon source material) can be anywhere from negligible, to subtle, to unbelievable.
I can safely say that right now I don't even know the full capabilities of this preamp, but this 45 pound monster is WAY serious!
However I have noticed that even a few budget components (The aforementioned Adcom & NAD for example) still provide some basic Eq. features, so you don't have to necessarily break the bank.
So now I'm an All Solid-State, Tone-Controlled, Happy Camper! Sincerely Yours too, (in further neg. votes)!
Artemus, I tried the old pre (BTW, a NAD; not Cambridge -- sorry), between the CDP & the main pre. Although it doesn't overload on low volume, the sound is, well... like throwing a blanket over the speakers. Strangely enough, the tone controls' effect increased with volume on the NAD; on the other hand, that's what ended up overloading the main pre --and distorting...
Oh well...
Bob, I had to take a look at that accuphase. It looks pretty good but out of my $ league.
Greg, When I tried mine it sounded like my speakers were under water.
I had the same problem with my densen-spica angelus setup (some recordings sound very thin to the point where I avoid listening despite liking the music). I ended up with a Rel strata subwoofer. This has worked really well for me : the good recordings are now amazing, and the bad ones are enjoyable. There are, however, still a few recordings which are not helped by the REL, maybe because it's upper frequency roll off is set at 30Hz, and the source material simply doesn't go down there. There are a very few discs that are not improved and no discs that are worse with the REL. I consider it a great buy.

Also, several years ago I had a friend with a Quad stup. Quad has some wierd tone controls which are supposed to "cause less distortion". I remember playing with them (I think they're called lift and tilt) and I was very impressed ... it seemed like quad had got it just right. It gave a small lift to the bass or treble, but not in the artificial way of a traditional tone control. However I believe that my Densen amp is more detailed than the Quad, for about the same price, so maybe less is more !? If this hobby were easy it wouldn't be so much fun !

So what did you end up doing ?
Seantaylor99
I replaced the Infinity speakers with Silverline Sonatas. A big improvement, but the biggest improvement in dealing with the bad recordings was to replace the Sherwood cdp with a Theta Miles cdp. Now all cd's are listenable. Obviously some cd's still sound better than others but overall they all sound good now. I haven't thought about tone controls or sub woofers since. Maybe a sub will come into play when I work on the HT end but I am just finishing the 2 channel with the purchase of Homegrown Silver Lace ic's and a dedicated AC line.