rated power test results sound & vision mag

As a side note, the last receivers that i purchased for friends / family were quite a while back. As it turns out, these units were on this list and actually did MUCH better than the average. I'm talking about the Sherwood AM-9080, which was rated at 120 wpc and actually delivered 108 wpc. While it didn't quite meet spec, it didn't fall too far below that. Newer Sherwood's appear to be "gutless wonders" like many of the other products out there.

It is pathetic to see units like the SONY STR-DA4ES. This receiver was rated at 110 wpc for 7 channels, yet when all 7 channels were driven, the receiver shut down. They couldn't even obtain a power output measurement due to the protection circuitry kicking in. The Sony SONY STR-DB1070 wasn't much better as it was rated at 100 wpc with 6 channels and could only must 31 wpc at clipping with all channels driven. This is almost as bad as the KENWOOD VR-7080, which was rated at 100 x 6 channels and clipped at 35 wpc. Then again, if you really want to see how bad things could get, take a look at the MARANTZ SR7200. Rated at 105 wpc x 6 channels, it was only able to deliver 27 wpc at clipping. PATHETIC !!!

The scary thing that i've noticed about this is that some brands do pathetically poor, regardless of the cost or power rating. As such, one almost has to know exactly which models from which brands are worth looking at or knowing to avoid. While none of their models were "piss poor", even the highly respected Denon's didn't do all that well. A couple of Onkyo's and Yamaha's knocked them out of the ballgames too.

The only brand that i see truly conistent performance from is Harman Kardon. Given HK's reputation "way back when", i'm glad to see that they aren't just a name anymore. The NAD's and the lone Outlaw didn't do "too bad", making them possibly worth looking into. Other than that, those looking for a receiver are in for some slim pickings. Sean
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My rec is if you cannot afford a pre-pro / amp setup, get a reciever that has pre-outs so upgrading the amp quality is less expencive as the reciever can be used as a pre-pro after you buy some external amps.

ive been running a denon avr 3805 and think the sound is great for a reciever (my amp broke and is about to be sent in for repair), but i do miss my amp.

my orignal plan was to buy an hk avr 235 and look for a good 5 ch amp. still may be the best way to go. then i got to looking at the onkyo sr701 and i like the features (thx select, pure audio, input buttons on the front, good remote). my front speakers are nht 2.5i, need lots of power. the results of the sr-501 are ok but nr901 is awful. integra dtr 7.2 also looks bad. but i'm hoping the sr701 is more like the sr-501 at least 75% of rated power. if you look at the onkyo web site the nr-901 is reviewed by sound and vision mag. the same test that put it on the list here. they said circut protection limited the output to 50 watts. hopefuly this will eliminate the possibility of clipping. since the sr-501 does the 47 watts mabey the sr series is more capeable in that department. i have seen the hk-635 for around $650 on line but i dont know it's thx status. i want my house to sound like a theater. the rear sp are cerwin vega re-30 and should help with the effects. if any one hase any more lists of rated power vs lab results, they would be much apreaciated. somebody has to have done a test of the onkyo tx-sr702 and or integra dtr-6.5.(they seem to be the same thing just a couple of different features and $200).

thanks again all

gmarcotte: 50 wpc is not enough to drive an NHT with any type of authority.

As far as THX certification goes, that doesn't mean squat. If THX certification meant something, all of those horrid HT receivers wouldn't be nearly as horrid or anemic as they are. Sean
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i will not pay $700 for an avr that wont do more than around 80 watts per channel. i'm hoping that is what the sr702 will do. that is around the same watts as the hk at this price point. i have listened to the integra with the same specks powering a 10000 pair of mcintosh speakers and it sounded pretty darn good. the salesman had it in 5.1 durring the listening of james talor live. with the big screen going it was almost like being there. drums seemed to be right there in the room.

anyway i do have a seperate amp i can use if needed, carver tfm15, that i am using now. i do like to know how many watts i am using in my mains (power meters) so i can leave about 20% of power in the amp for headroom.

mabey i should just get a panasonic xr70 100 watts x 5 for $300. in the mean time i will continue to search for onkyo tx sr702 test results and hope for good news.