John Dunlavy On "Cable Nonsense"

Amen, brother Steve. We can make a mint by starting the Church of the Heavenly Power (Cord).

Jadem6, you appear to be criticizing me for not believing there is a difference, and then criticizing me for trying to be fair. I bought the TMC's because they are the highest-rated at audioreview and was willing to give them a chance, and change my opinion if there was an improvement in sound. I've lived with them for about a week and I think a week isn't a fair trial. Unlike some who disagree with me, I try not to jump to conclusions.

Grungle, you're a pessimist. I think we can squeeze 500 posts out of this. If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly.

P.S. Nobody has yet explained the logic of plugging a multi-thousand dollar power cord into 50 cents a foot Romex.

Hm, I'll have to check the rule book, there are already several power cord "debates" going on, using the topic to pad a signal cable fight may not count. Of course, neither will silly meta discussion, so....
Jadem isn't offering an argument or support, he's just sniping. Nothing to disagree with.
J Thunders, congratulations on your ears. You sound like you have enough faith in them to try a blind test, eh? Any chance?
By all means trust your ears, our point is that you hear with your BRAIN, which is susceptible to all kinds of prejudicing and suggestion. IMO, your best bet is to accept this and say the extra money is worth the perceived improvement, even if it quite likely disappears when you don't ALREADY know what you are listening to. After all, under normal circumstances you know what's there.

Plasmatronic: Your brother of choice (Stevemj) has zero first hand experience (from his history at this site) of what he speaks. In other words, his opinion is based on Zip, which just happens to be the speaker cable that he prefers.

Oh shit, here we go with the epistimological thing again. Maybe you want to argue about whether God exists for a while, or maybe a theory on the origins of the universe.

Re: ABX, sure, what the hell, I'll try anything once. I pass the test with digital links, why not a power cord-eh?

But sounds to me like you fellas have chosen poorly your hobby. I don't know what systems you run, but based on the above, I can now assume that you picked your pieces on something other than how they sound. Cool. I'm into it. But I will never understand how the unbelievers of you can look me in the face and say an amp you have chosen sounds better or different from another, or likewise with a pair of speakers, but also say the stuff that strings them all together makes no difference. Any comment on how arbitrary that is?

We can go roundy round racing on this for another month solid, but what's the point? Your minds are made up. There appears to be no amount of rationalizing, mathematical machinations, blind faith or otherwise that's gonna change your minds. So that begs the question, if everything sounds the same, why are you here? Sheer joy of playing devils advocate? I'm stumped.

J_thunder, the systems they use are hush, hush. VERY top secret stuff. They have to keep it that way due to the confidentiality clause in the contract with Bose and Sears.