SACD finally taking-off? non-classical listeners


It looks like SACD might finally lift-off this fall with the Rolling Stones releases. The engineer claims the SACD revisions sound 40% better than the standard on these hybrids.(Ice Magazine)
Meanwhile, there are some interesting releases on DVD-A that are too interesting to forego; Fleetwood Mac "Rumours", and "Crowded House". Both redbook versions of these discs are non-listenable with good equipment.
What is the answer for a "2-Channel Person" who wants great sound without the "snap, crackle, and pop" of the LP?
Is there confidence that both of these formats will exist in two years?
Is the purchase of a dual SACD/DVD-A player foolish, or the only answer?

Please advise,
CB
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Marakanetz, the recording companies record to digital "multitrack" in order to do their editing. While the sound quality may not be up to analog, the editing capability of digital is much more versatile. This gives cleaner edits and other manipulations of the recording. Also, time coding of each track can be more precise when locking up the tracks. Other advantages as well.
Marakanetz, big name pop/rock acts with corresponding big recording budgets and recording in a world class studio(s) will typically track using 2" 24 track analog tape (two machines can be synced if more tracks are required). It will then be ported over to a digital format for manipulation and mixing. Effects and processors used can either be analog or digital. The final mix is via analog large format console mixer to 1/2" analog tape. The mastering studio will provide the finishing touches, nearly always analog processors, and then transfer the music into a computer running software to compile it as a redbook CD.

The reason for such a convoluted recording process is a combination of sound quality, comfort level and convenience. For the tracking sessions most people think 2" analog tape sounds better than any other format. It is also a world wide accepted standard that engineers are comfortable handling. Digital mixing affords far greater flexibility than possible with a purely analog signal path. It also avoids the generational losses associated with analog tape based mixing. (Even if you stayed analog, you would never mix with the original recordings, you would use dubs.) Typical manipulation at this stage might be producing a single composite vocal track from a dozen individual tracks. Or maybe replacing the kick drum sound with a pre-recorded kick drum sample. The vocal comp can be done, if somewhat messily, on analog tape with a razor and tape. The kick drum replacement can only be accomplished in the digital domain. The final two channel mix is done to analog tape because it sounds better than way. The mastering stage continues the analog sound processes because of its sonic superiority. The most common mastering processes are volume changes, EQ and compression. While there are perfectly good digital devices that accomplish these processes, the general consensus is that the best sounding outboard devices are all analog based.

Modern pop/rock recording is conceptually similar to making a commericial Hollywood movie. No director is making a faithful reproduction of real events, the documentary approach, but instead everything is fake and any level of artifice is employed to make it "better than real".
Onhwy61, it is refreshing to read a post that is factual and informative. I am good friends with Russ Burger of RBDG. He is frequently featured in Spin magazine and is responsible for the design of several fine recording studios.

Our conversations have covered much of what you have posted, in addition I've sat in with him during recording sessions in his own place.

A valuable insight to the workings of producing the end product we wind up with.
I bought my first SACD player (Sony 333) recently and have acquired about 10 SACD's. I have about 500 redbook CD's. The SACD's sound great...imho...about %40 better than redbook. So, I will enjoy what I can get out of SACD, and keep upgrading my CD player to get the most out of my rebooks. If SACD eventually goes belly up.....I don't much care........It will not change the fact that the SACD's I own sound really good and I should be able to enjoy them even if the format dies.

I do think that the current battle over formats sucks, since there are obvioulsy improvements to be made to the CD.....but my inexpensive investment in a SACD player has been worth it, even if in the end I end up with only 20-30 outstanding sounding new pieces of music. I agree with those whose say, in the end, it is all about enjoying the music.
Pardales, what CD player or combo do you or did you have before?
I've listened to Gamut CD1 with red-book CDs and I've never heard anything sound even close for the price range offered.