Actually the tiptronic is more a slushbox with manual controls than a standard w/o clutch. The manual trans porsches are much better. The best manual w/o clutch trannies in normal production cars are made by Sachs, the SMG (sequential manual gearbox) as seen in the new M3. (too bad the car is so heavy). Of course the F360 has a nice paddle shifting trans., but at the cost of the car, hell, it should! Some of the race cars I've been in have true sequential trans., or at least dog-shifting boxes (upshift w/o clutch).... true sequential transmissions ala rally cars is sooo cool. snapping off shifts (up or down) without even lifting.. pretty brutal. Pretty expensive too.
930 (aka original 911 turbo) is a neat car, but way outclassed today, even by normally aspirated 911s. Boost management was unheard of back then, driving them was a real 'adventure'. Current 911 turbos are much more easy to drive by comparison. Still, an excellent example of early-80s wretched excess. ;-> In that vein, how about a 959?
CLK55, other mercedes: yawn. no stick, no sale.
930 (aka original 911 turbo) is a neat car, but way outclassed today, even by normally aspirated 911s. Boost management was unheard of back then, driving them was a real 'adventure'. Current 911 turbos are much more easy to drive by comparison. Still, an excellent example of early-80s wretched excess. ;-> In that vein, how about a 959?
CLK55, other mercedes: yawn. no stick, no sale.