Impedance Matching


Would you even consider running a tubed preamp with an output impedance of approx 2,500 ohms into a lower impedance solid state amp, say if the amp had a value of 15,000 ohms?
stickman451
One of the big issues of impedance matching besides the frequency problems and other issues is the transfer of signal.

Using a very simplistic example.
Using only voltage you have a ratio of transfer. So going from 10k to 10k you would have 50% transfer. Going from 1k to 10k would give you a 1 to 10 transfer ratio and so on. Generally, so you don't have current loading issues and voltage transfer issues, it is best to have a low impedance source to a very high impedance input.

Anything else is tone control to an extent and that is why interconnects make a bigger difference on some systems then others.
Al, Got another technical question for you. How does an RCA to XLR adapter work? If you connect your high output impedace pre via single ended rca to a low impedance power amp and you use an xlr converter to go into the amp's xlr input, are you getting any benefit from interfacing with with the amps higher input impedance on its balanced in? (Often times it seems that big SS amps balanced-in has a higher specd input impedance)
Stickman, often (although not always) the number provided in specifications of balanced input impedances represents the sum of the input impedances of the two input signal "legs." An RCA-to-XLR adapter routes the signal on the center conductor of the RCA cable into one of those two legs (usually pin 2) while connecting the other one (usually pin 3) to ground (pin 1).

So in those cases the unbalanced output of the component providing the signal would see a load impedance that may be in the vicinity of half of the specified input impedance. Or, if not half, a load impedance that is substantially less than the specified balanced input impedance.

The Bryston amplifier you were considering appears to be an exception to that. While there are some inconsistencies between the input impedance values shown in the manual and the brochure, and the values that can be calculated from the schematic, it appears that they are defining balanced input impedance as being the input impedance of each leg. And that value is in the same general area, 15 to 20K, as the unbalanced input impedance. So the preamp would see a fairly similar load, and perhaps an identical load, with or without an adapter.

A separate question, apart from impedance considerations, would be if an amplifier having both balanced and unbalanced inputs would in itself sound better, the same, or worse using the balanced input with an adapter vs. the unbalanced input. Any of those three possibilities is conceivable, IMO, depending on the particular design.

Regards,
-- Al
Stickman451 hi, I have post on a similar thread some extensive tests that were done that should answer your question here;

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1387725945&read

Cheers George