Should Sound Quality of Computer Audio be improved

Petty - such is life and it has nothing to do with anyone in this chat group.

Whom do you blame for the thousands of analogue recordings that never made it onto CD? For the 78rpm records that never survived to see the light of day as LPs? This is just the natural order of things. If there is demand then there is money to be made. If there is money to be made then the product will be manufactured and sold.

Simple. Any 5-year old could understand it. That's the world we live in. You just can't handle the truth...

In practice, I think it is easier to find out of print material these days than ever. And for reasonable cost. You just gotta go used in many cases via ebay or similar.

Out of print is out of print. A lot of old stuff with any current market value does get re-released, in some cases as original package (often extended in some way) or in some totally new package, like "the essential so and so...", etc. Its really not a problem in practice I find so I will not loose any sleep. Most of the old out of print stuff that I must have I already do. In cases otherwise, I have not had problems finding it. Yawn....

Mapman has said it PO! Unlike any other time in history it is probably easier to track down limited availability records & CDs. Whether out of print or not. You can worry about the number 10,000 but its normal.

You could type "out of print and not available as download" if you like, but most sane people would go to specialist sites or contact collectors with a more focused question. Maybe something like " I'm looking for deleted catalogue from Sony jazz record labels" etc.

I find it mind boggling you have this idea it's a format issue. As I have said a thousand times to you now the format is IRRELEVANT. You take which ever rare recording you find & store it digitally. Done. Saved. No sunspots.

As for the market, its how it has always been. Some recordings survive some don't, some get rereleased on compilations and licensed and so on. Do detective work.

But how is this effecting you? Do you want to listen to every record just because it exists?

If you were REALLY the kind of person who CARED about this, you would have built an archive like some people i know and become a resource for rare & difficult to find records. There are many online. Some not totally legal for obvious reasons but enthusiasts. There are some stunning classical archives to be found.

As someone mentioned in an earlier post " what about 78rpm?" In fact I would add that many rare 78 recordings have been saved by being digitized! Many having the noise removed and cleaned of pops and scratches too. How could you complain? You complain because you have made little effort to look or understand by the sounds of it. Chicken or egg indeed? No chicken or egg, no effort, no listening, no idea. Plenty of ranting though.

I find your arguments uninformed. You deflect and never answer or acknowledge good information posted to and for you. But I don't even detect you are playing games. I feel you actually believe what you are posting which is even more worrying!

If you ACTUALLY want to get an definitive answer. Lets do this, put your questions as bullet points rather than long winded rants without paragraphs. I.e Should I worry archiving my CDs to harddrive makes these back ups vulnerable to sunspot damage and data loss? Then you will get clear answers. Then you could reply by saying "Thank you. I have read this xxxxx which seems to prove..." Then we could have a clear adult discussion.

Pettyofficer,

Just wanted to add on to what Mapman said and your concern over the 10,000 out of print cds. If downloads are the future, I would think the copy rights owners of those 10,000 cds would be very tempted to rerelease many of these as downloads if there is enough demand. And these downloads may be higher resolution than the original cds depending on how the master was recorded. I'm not saying this will definitely happen but I think the financial incentive may be too strong to resist in many cases.

Hope this eases some of your concerns

Guys, it is simple math! How can you possibly get it wrong? At one time ( Prior to Computer Audio becoming popular ) you could get just about anything on CD. Today it is very questionable getting it on CD, and any question at all about not being available as download. What has changed? Access to our Music Archive is now being strangled when before it wasn't. Coincidence this happens when Computer Audio starts replacing CD? That is the problem: Computer Audio ISN'T keeping up with the job of replacing Music Archive of CD. It is NOT even close!
All of you even admit as much and offer nothing as a solution. "Just suck it up, and live without your Music" -
THAT IS NOT A SOLUTION! It is pathetic, not to mention the pathetic performance of Computer Audio Downloading to produce an available Music Archive. What little is available remains hidden being splintered across the Internet.
"I am not sure that this will definitely happen...", so why risk even permanently losing more Musical Archive than we already currently have lost? We didn't used to have to "Track Down" anything. Why now are we being forced to? Why this particular interference with this particular audio Format of Computer Audio Downloads? This is "CONVENIENCE" being blocked from our Music? Sane people don't drastically execute current access to existing Music Archive for a few "scraps" of Music Selection in a New Format. Tens of thousands of LP Releases didn't suddenly become "Out of Print" when the first few dozen CD selections first came out. CD was tasked to provide a decent selection BEFORE we started switching over.
Just as an observation: I think you Guys are afraid
that Computer Audio Downloads will not be able to live up to the task of providing a decent Musical Archive- not now, not in the next 10 years. "I am not saying this will definitely happen...", I am supposed to risk all of my future access to Music Archive on this??? This doesn't benefit me, who does it benefit? Give up my Music on a permanent basis to save you a few seconds to access your own? We are now in the business of sacrificing our Music on a permanent basis instead of collecting it? This is what you are selling me, and you can't understand why I am not buying it? If I were to "Buy it", I would like to be able to
"Buy it", and not have it "Unavailable as Download"! None of your suggestions gets anyone any closer to being there.
All of your responses rely on persuading someone who simply
"Cannot Add". Unfortunately I can! You can dance around it, and insult me all you want: "Soon all New Music will only be available as Music Downloads" simply means a whole hell of a lot less Music available to everyone than previously.
Your Audio Format means the exact same thing. Call me stupid for being aware of what your forcing me to give up- THAT IS THE REAL BOTTOM LINE!!! I wouldn't put up with you Guys one more second, and wade thru the mud flinging, if I didn't really care about Music evaporating on a permanent basis- with nothing physically replacing it except "Snake Oil", "Hot air", and "Fantasy". Real CONVENIENT, just not that RELIABLE in producing Music Selection. I guess the silence of a vacuum can be convenient- unless you really love Music! Are you a Music Lover, or a Computer lover to the exclusion of Music? If not, then what are you? I am simply a Music Lover first when it comes to my Computer requiring me to exclude Music. Sorry if it offends everyone.
Don't flatter yourselves, you make very poor "Used Car" Salesmen. Maybe you should sell shoes instead of Audio Formats. You would make more money that way!