best preamps in the 4K-8K range


I'm looking for some opinions on preamps. My current system is: Ayre Cx-7 CD player, Arcam AV8 preamp, Cary 500 MB monoblocks (currently using arcam P7 preamp, but have the Carys on order), Dali euphonia MS4 speakers, Richard Gray Power. I find m current system nice, but slightly analytical, and not as 3-dimentional as I'd like. I'd also like some more musicality with a touch of warmth. I have been thinking about BAT, Cary, Herron and Pass labs preamps--some would need to be picked up used on audiogon to stay in my price range. I would certainly appreciate any thoughts on what might go well with my system from any audiogoners. Thanks
tcheathertree
Herron preamps are very neutral. Not sure there will be enough warmth there for you. I used to own a Joule Electra LA-100 MkIII (I compared it in my system with my friends Herron) which I felt was incredibly musical with just the right touch of warmth for my system. I ran it with a solid state amp. The LA-100 is actually a tad more neutral than most preamps I have heard, but if you get a chance, check into one of these or the newest version of the LA-150.
If only this were so easy...... I also am currently in the same hunt, and have been for a couple of months now. I also went through this in 2004. The preamp is the most difficult component to recommend, IMHO. It is so system, taste, and feature dependant, that it's almost impossible for anyone to tell you what will work best for your system/tastes/needs.

I think you will find that the current popular choice in your price range is a ARC Ref 3, used or demo. However, that could change soon with the new BAT's coming out at the CES this week. Keep in mind that the latest, hottest preamp may not be the best fit for you however. You may prefer the Cary SLP-05 to mate with your new Cary monoblocks. Only your ears can decide.

Happy Hunting,

John
Can't go wrong with VAC. VAC is classic. The ARC Ref 3 is another good choice, but finding one for $8k this early in the game? You'll need a connection. And it won't necessarily assuage the clinical sound you seek to change.

How about the CJ flagships? Last year's flagship might be available in the $8k range.

The VAC or CJ will get you more warmth, and a less analytical presentation. IMO, VAC gets the music right.
I agree with the VAC. Used Ren Mk2 w/line stage should be near the bottom of your range and if you get lucky, you can get a Ren Sig Mk 2 near the top of your range. Of course, I own the Ren Mk 2 and love it. I will say that it is possible that the Cary amp may give you the warmth you are looking for. The Joules are excellent and also since you don't need a line stage, First Sound. Really quite neutral and might work just fine with the Carys.
With respect to Swampwalker, IMO the First Sound won't get you where you want to go with more warmth and a less analytical sound. The First Sound preamps are Ferraris, and it sounds to me like you want a Rolls.