Assistance with Coincident set-up


I have Coincident Total Victory IV speakers with Frankenstein II 300b amps and a Supratek Cortese Preamp. The components sound very good but when I listen to classical music I would like to have a little more push when the music goes from a soft passage to something loud.
I don’t want to lose any low level detail , that the Frankenstein amp is known for, or as little as possible.
I have $4000-$5000 to spend on new or used.I can’t afford the Dragon II amps they are 10K, and that is out of the question but if I had the money that is what I would get.
My question is will a more powerful amp help or if I changed the preamp would that give the classical music a little more up front push? I want a remote control and phono with the preamp.The Coincident speakers and amps sound very good, My system never sounded so good , I hate to mess with it but if I can make the classical music a little more dynamic I’ll be all set .
I’ve only had two tube amps in the past one a 300b and the other a 45. Is there another tube other than the 300b someone can recommend ?
I’ll keep the Frankenstein until I can find and amp that has the low level detail of the Frank with more power.I may keep the Frankenstein forever it is that good !

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, my listening room is 12 feet wide and 17 feet long with 7.5 feet ceilings.

Abill
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Abill,
I do have Supratek Chenin, and it's MKII, I used to have Chenin and Cortese, as well, and I don't think it's your limiting factor, if anything, Suprateks are pretty dynamic.
Linear A is absolutely special amp., if 25 Wt is enough power for you, they are unlike anything else, I've had in my system. Very dynamic, beautiful tone and texture, very emotionally involving.
The amp, I'm sure will sound beautiful, is BAT VK-75SE, I used to have that, as well, albeit with a different speakers. They can be had used on A-gon for under $4K used.
It's replacement BAT Rex power amp is $15 K retail.
I'm thinking of trying one in my system.
Charles1dad,
It is true, we all have different tastes, but still, some aspects of music reproduction are not a subject of such, dynamic ability is one of them.It's simply either system does, or doesn't have it.
I listened to Franks and Pure Reference in comparison with 50 Wt/ch PP tube amp by another company in the same session, and there was no contest, Franks sounded dynamically restricted and bland. Actually a dealer, whom that system belonged to, didn't even want me to listen to Pure Reference with Franks, I insisted, but then asked him to switch back after 10 min., it was that obvious. And he is a dealer for both companies.
I don't doubt for a minute, there are people, who love the combo, and I read Tejay's posts. But hey, there are people, who claim listening to music at 65dB. and liking it.
I was at symphonic concert a couple of weeks ago, sitting mid-hall and took measurements with Analog Tools SPL meter- guess what- average level is about 85dB, and peaks are about 100 Db. Go tell.
In my personal opinion, if the system cannot reproduce this kind of dynamic contrasts faithfully, something is fundamentally wrong with it, timbre, tone,etc, notwhithstanding.
Charles1dad,
Your offer is too kind, I live in New England, 60 miles north of Boston Ma., but thank you.
Did you use any other premaps with your Coincident speakers before getting your CSL ?
Is it a hassle having a manual dual volume control ?
I'm not an impulse buyer and I'll do a lot of research before changing anything in my system.
I have a feeling changing my preamp would improve things.
My Frank's aren't going anywheres,90% of the time I am very content with my system but when I listen to classical it seems a little too polite.

Well back to saving more money and enjoy my music !!

Thank You for the comments.
Abill
Maril555,
We really don`t disagree, my bottom line is how does it sound to you in your system. The only point I`m making is other have found that combination ideal,in your case it certainly wasn`t,understandable. I use the Coincident TE speakers and don`t have the short comings you`ve expressed. Like you I attend live performances and can appreciate real dynamic weight and contrast. For what ever reason I`m able to reproduce this characteristic at home to my satisfaction .Obviously YMMV applies. Fortunately I`m not limited to 65db levels.

I do acknowledge the laws of physic and a good quality higher power amp might be the answer for Abill. I will say again I`d like him to at lease hear the CSL with his amplifier before he searches for another amp.

Abill the only other preamps I`ve heard with my system was a Quicksilver modified with Vcap and Sonicap-platinum capacitors, and a Audio Research REF 2.The improvement in weight,impact,dynamics and sheer presence was profound.

Regarding dual volume controls they`re fine and precise, no hassles. The CSL does lack a remote and it`s quite heavy and 2 chassis. The power supply is massive and the weight is due to big transformers and chokes, also big power supply capacitors.
Again Best of Luck.
Here is an update of my situation with dynamics.

I was listening to my system last week when the rectifier tube flashed (in my Cortese pre)and made a hell of pop . Fortunately I was getting records ready to play and I turned off the power immediately, no damage. I replaced the GZ34 and also the pair of KT 66's. I couldn't believe the difference in sound, all the dynamics are there !So the lack of power were the tubes.
I'll have to email Supratek to mention in 3 years I have replaced the Sovtek GZ34 tube 3 times.I get about 1000-1500 hours on the GZ34 tube. I tried some Mullards,Amperex,Phillips but they don't sound as good , Mick did a hell of a job voicing the preamp with Electro Harmonic and Sovtek tubes , I've yet to try a different make of tubes that sound better.
All the comments I got saying the Frank's have enough power for the Total Victory's are correct !
It is a very special 300b amp !
If anyone has listened to the Frankenstein amp's and the new release of the Dragon's I would be very interested in hearing your comments about the differences, expecially the bass and low level detail.
I don't think I will ever sell my Frank's , they are my go to amp when I want to just listen to the music and relax.
But once in a while when I get a little roudy and play my classical music very loud I would like to be blown away with a little more power but the Frank's are without a doubt the best 300b amps I have owned.

Thanks again for all the helpful comments.