Have cables become somewhat of a snake-oil topic.


I've invested many tens of thousands in high end 2-channel home audio gear and cables. I'm also a musician who has recorded and created mixes in many of the top recording studios in LA, NY and Nashville. These studios most often use the highest quality power treatment, tube condenser microphones, pre-amps, EQ modules, AD/DA converters, compressors, monitors, etc. Obviously, the goal in a recording studio is to capture the realism of the live studio performance for both vocals and instruments, and create a final mix-down that highlights the natural subtle nuances of the performances of each musician.

With that said, my 20 years of informal research inside these studios says that virtually NONE invest in high priced specially stranded balanced interconnects or speaker cables. Instead, various models of a particular Japanese cable is considered the studio "gold standard" and is WIDELY used in the top studios across the country. Now any good mixing engineer is at least AS interested as any audiophile, in all the audio characteristics and variables we discuss ad nauseum in these A-gon threads. So if recording pros are willing to spend hundreds of thousands on electronics and speakers, to capture the natural and neutral sound of a musician's studio performance, why is it that expensive cabling is seen as the snake oil equivalent in the recording industry. (Moreover, I could go one step further and ask why some home audio D/A converters far exceed the cost of the most sought after professional studio D/A converters?.......we'll leave that for another discussion.)

I DO NOT disagree that substituting a Nordost, Siltech, Cardas or various other high end brands into my personal studio rig do not make a difference. There are indeed audible differences between the brands in terms of bass extension, smoothness, imaging, graininess, etc. However, these DIFFERENCES are not necessarily equivalent to an IMPROVEMENT in capturing the natural/neutral details of a given performance.

(I intentionally will not address the mastering process since that has everything to do with radio and marketing execs commercial sales expectations, rather than a true to life presentation of the musical performances.)
jymc
03-20-13: Hifiharv
Hey, what is that Japanese cable they consider the gold standard?
Mogami.
03-20-13: Onhwy61
Good question and great post ....
I'll second that.

One point I would add is that both technical considerations and a considerable amount of anecdotal evidence that I've seen here and elsewhere support the idea that sensitivity to interconnect cable differences will generally tend to be less in the case of balanced interfaces than in the case of unbalanced interfaces. That is particularly true if the output impedance of the component driving the cable is low. Studios generally use balanced cabling, and I suspect that more often than not those cables are driven by components having low output impedances.

I would also add that in the past I have seen more than a few posts here and elsewhere in which people have expressed surprise about how good the results were after they changed their high priced cabling to vastly less expensive Mogami. Not in every reported case in which that has been tried, but in many and probably most of them.

Regards,
-- Al
Yea, I've picked up some Mogami Gold studio XLR wires not too long ago. ~$50 bucks. Try them, you may well not be dissapointed at all. And even if you are: $50.

Had a similar ephiphany. If most of what you listen to was recorded on these wires, how can using something else to reproduce it make it better? I'm sure there may be answers to that quesiton, but it's a awfully good question.
I have never chased the last minutia of frequency reponse or detail, especially those that equate statistical prowess with pleasing sound. It can be very expensive.
My neighbor plugs his $4k speaker cables into a $15 rca jack at one end and a $20 5-way at the other. The amps and speakers are expensive and sound great but the amp still has a $15 plated rca and the expensive speakers still have a $20- 5-way. Systems are only as good as the weakest link and engineers are aware of this paradigm. I always notice a difference when I change from the different cables I have but it doesn't mean its better. I, an amateur audiophile, have managed to source cabling that sounds engaging and musical at very reasonable prices.
I bet those Magico or MBL speakers would sound crackin' good with Signal Cable speaker cables and Kimber PBJ rca's.
There just comes a point where the cost for miniscule advancements (changes for changes sake) becomes absurdley expensive.
I want to hear the music, not the fly farting over the cellists shoulder.
I've invested many tens of thousands in ... cables

You are not alone. Your Dealers love you and will invite you to Barbecue ... I also know such a guy, his family don't say "Dad" to him, they call him "Cable" ... :-)

So if recording pros are willing to spend hundreds of thousands on electronics and speakers, to capture the natural and neutral sound of a musician's studio performance, why is it that expensive cabling is seen as the snake oil equivalent in the recording industry.

Professionals have no problem to spend money for something advanced with a serious calculation behind the Product, but they have a problem with the few hundred Percent Mark up in High End cables...