glam rock fans?

In response to rottenclam, i dont think a 12 year run of music can be constituted as a "sordid chapter". Yeah, the style was a little over the top, but that of T.Rex, and the NY Dolls wasnt?? At least these bands(for the most part) were able to play. The 80s metal scene set a whole new class of guitarists. It reinvented the instrument. Malmsteen, Vai, Petrelli, Wylde to mention a few. Those into the scene, knew every band member, every song, what the instruments were played etc. The music scene is for ever evolving, bands of the past are influences for bands of the future. How can you knock the 80s metal scene when basically it was just an evolving continuance of your glam scene of the 70s.

Not exactly glam rock - though I love the Tubes. WHat do you want from live is one of the best sounding live rock LP;s I have.

Dzigon,

There is no way that I'm knocking the 80s metal scene as a whole. Hell, in the last few years I've seen Testament, Exodus, S.O.D., Satyricon, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden, etc, all at seperate shows...and none of them were at that crappy Ozz-Fest either. I love metal!

The guys like Malmsteen, Vai, Wylde, DiMartini, Rhoads, etc were (and still are) totally badass. I'm knocking the hairbands specifically. Although you could make a case for Ratt, Whitesnake, and at one point even Ozzy (The Ultimate Sin era) for being hair-metal bands, I dont really classify them as such. The "glam metal scene" was a total joke to Metal as a whole. Whether it be New Wave of British Heavy Metal, power metal, speed metal, death metal, or thrash metal; I think the bands that were part of those genres share absolutely NOTHING with Cinderalla, Warrant, Bon Jovi, and those kinds of oppurtunists.

And as for the implication that members of T-Rex or the New York Dolls "could not play", you've got to be joking. Most glam bands of the 70s contained great musicians (Roxy Music, Bowie's various lineups, Queen, etc). They may not have been as good as their prog-rock contemporaries that were dominating the airwaves simultaneously, but hey, when you're up against guys like Fripp and Steve Howe for technical chops, its gonna be pretty hard to even come close.

My points, in case we're losing sight of them, are as follows:

1. 70s Glam (the REAL glam) had great musicians and songwriting.

2. 80s Glam/hair Metal was crap. Similar to manufactured Pop, this was a more industry driven exploitation of the real metal scene, only re-dressed in less offensive clothing.

Haha, I love debating this crap.

-Jake

holy moly......maybe the most overlooked of all, BEBOP DELUXE......bill nelson along with bolan, robbie dunbar from earthquake(van halen made a career out of copping his licks), and dare i say buck dharma pretty much wrote the book of seventies 'attitude' guitar. "any guitarist who needs more than three chords, just hasnt found the right three"-john cippolina

one more thing-jakes right