Another soundstage question


There are a couple of soundstage related threads running on the amp/preamp section and they reminded me of a question I’ve been meaning to ask without hijacking those threads. The speakers are Vandersteen 2Ci and the system along with their placement is giving me a real deep and relatively wide soundstage - but not much further to the sides, but I’d like the height of the soundstage be little higher. The speakers are on the sides of a bay window, about 10’ apart and with heavy drapes pulled on either side and about 2.5’ behind the speakers. Much lighter curtains cover the bay windows for privacy. In my seating position that is about 10’ away from each speaker the top of the soundstage is just about the top of the speakers, sort of like I’m sitting at the same level as the musicians. The depth is realistic but I think the height needs to higher to give a better feel for the height of the singer standing in the middle and the rest of the band scattered at different levels within the stage. So having said all this, is the soundstage height mostly a function of the electronics driving the speakers or its the size/shape of the speakers, e.g., speaker height, tilt, etc., the listening placement, or a combination of all of the above. Thanks.

kalali

Showing 3 responses by kosst_amojan

I've seen several people post in several different forums about stage height. And inevitably, the crowd goes bonkers about placement, placement, placement. Um.... no. It has NEVER been my experience that the height or angle of the tweeter effects the height of a soundstage. Ceiling treatments do a little bit, and if they do make a big difference you've just got a poorly designed speaker. And there's plenty of speakers that pay little to no mind to depth, width, and height in favor of this tonal purity some people are obsessed with. It's very easy to achieve height with a recording. I mic that's low will make something seem tall just like a mic that's far away will make something seem distant. It's largely a failure of the speaker to reveal spacial information and some to do with the room. Some speakers just don't do it well, period. 
Not all speakers do soundstaging well. Some put a bigger emphasis on tone. My Focals project a towering, deep, stage. Billy Gibbon's amp sounds like it's next to him on the floor. Danny Carey's drums sound 8 feet high. Near and far is vivid. I struggle with width on account of an asymmetric space. I never though much about the height of the speaker, but with 936's you're sitting well below the tweeter and dead on with the midrange. I don't think that accounts for the height of the sound. Room treatments are a help but don't unleash characteristics of the speaker it just doesn't have. 
Oh my God! I'm marking this day on my calendar because Geoff made a post I completely agree with!

Also worthy of mentioning, my other pair of speakers are 1975 ESS AMT1's and they're short little speakers. 30 inches tall in fact. I shim the AMT's up a little to aim them higher. Their height doesn't seem to make much difference on the size of the soundstage. It's still plenty tall, deep, and wide. I don't think the height of a speaker should dramatically change how it images for the most part.