Audio Magic's MST treatment?

I have been using Audio Magic products for years, and love them. If Jerry, Mr Silver himself--the Audio Magic man says that light will have a deleterious on the MST treatment, I believe him. You would feel better if you called Jerry and asked him all your questions. Hopefully you will come away with the same impressions I did. peace, warren

I'm also a long time Audio Magic user and extremely happy with their performance. But like most of us, I need to tweak it just to see if I can get it sound better. I plan to change its outlets with Oyaide duplexes. If the light is as you say deleterious on the MST treatment how it doesn't effect the cables with the same treatment??? And I don't think he assembles these conditioners under infra-red light. I don't know I'm just curious...

Is Jerry doing your outlets? Why do you think he wouldn't be assembling his conditioners under infra-red light? I'm curious, as well, but maybe a tad more trusting. Gullible maybe?

Sending the unit back to him will be just to difficult for me and I'm sure he will not say yes to me to open the box. Well, maybe I'll use IR light to change receptacles :-)

Hah ha! what a load.
Maybe he captures magical spirits in there and if you open it BOOM! you let them escape?
Again, what a crock!
Can't open it? because you might be disappointed? probably!
I could understand saying you can't open it or void the warranty, but to claim it will ruin the sound is dabbling in 'magical' effects.
I guess audiophiles have just gone off the deep end!
If anyone is interested in my secret faith based bottle of audiophile nirvana, send $899. for a bottle of invisible audiphile joy, just pour it on your system and enJOY!
Yeah... right...

I'm with Elizabeth on this one. The warning against opening the Audio Magic conditioner because it will have a deleterious affect on the MST treatment sounds like pure BS to me.

More likely, it's intended to deter folks from opening the unit and seeing what little is inside.

Well, I have seen the inside of the earlier Audio Magic Stealth and Matrix boxes and ,yes, there is really not much inside. But let me say it again, they are the best sounding power conditioners I've tried. It really doesn't matter whether it's filled with pure air and nothing else, what matters is the sound.

So, I'm just curious about this 'new' MST treatment.

I didn't make any comment regarding the Audio Magic Stealth's efficacy.

But really, MST being affected by light is nonsense. The Stealth's are most likely not assembled in darkrooms, wouldn't you agree?

It's all a matter of trust, don't you think? If you believe in a company, their founder, creator, the whole nine, and he says this is what, why and how he does it, why not believe him. That's good enough for me. Tvad, if you knew someone who created, developed, and nurtured a wonderful modification for a component, like a cd player, that you owned and loved, would you believe what he told you in e-mails and phone conversations even if it sounded a bit outlandish and out there? Can you relate? peace, warren :)

Tvad, if you knew someone who created,
developed, and nurtured a wonderful modification for a component, like
a cd player, that you owned and loved, would you believe what he told
you in e-mails and phone conversations even if it sounded a bit
outlandish and out there?

Not necessarily, no. I
certainly would be dubious if my friend was making claims like those of
Audio Magic about the deleterious effect of light on MST. Furthermore,
we're talking about business here, and the potential purchase of
products. If anything, I am more cautious about doing business with
friends, because I don't want a bad business experience to negatively
affect our friendship.

I can think of few hobbies full of more BS than high end audio tweaks.
Frankly, it's embarrassing. Audio Magic's MST might be good and
effective stuff, but thus far, the claim that exposure to light will
negatively affect MST is suspect.

Why not ask your friend if Audio Magic power conditioners are built in
darkrooms, or under infared lighting? Ask him HOW light negatively
affects MST. These are reasonable questions to ask, and the answers
should address the issue pretty thoroughly.

Tvad, these are all very good questions and concerns. I would also like to hear what the infra red "magic" is all about and how they are assembled with the light issue.

HI EVERYONE,

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF MST TREATMENTS, THE STANDARD WHICH IS
DONE TO THE POWER CONDITIONERS AND THE MODIFIED MST WHICH
IS DONE TO THE CABLE PRODUCTS [ THE MODIFIED DOES NOT PRODUCE
THE SAME RESULTS AS THE STANDARD BUT IS NOTICEABLE ]. WE ARE NOW DOING OUR CONDITIONERS WITH OUR NEW IPF MODULES AND ALL
THESE UNITS CAN BE OPENED AS ALL CRITICAL PARTS WITH MST ARE
PROTECTED.ALL POWER CONDITIONERS BEFORE THE IPF MODULES WERE
BUILT UNDER A SPECIAL SET OF LIGHT PRODUCING BULBS SUPPLIED
BY THE COMPANY THAT TREATS OUR PRODUCTS, AND YES, THIS WAS A PAIN IN THE A-- BUT THE SONIC IMPROVMENTS WERE WORTH IT.
AS ALWAYS WE ARE EXTREMEMLY REASONABLE WITH ALL MODIFICATIONS DONE TO OUR PRODUCTS SO IF YOU NEED ANY
WORK DONE DON'T HESITATE, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO OPEN THE CONDITIONERS DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU THE COMPANY THAT
DOES THE TREATMENT CHARGES APPOX 450.00 PLUS SHIPPING
TO RE- TREAT THE PRODUCT.I HAVE HAD 2 CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE
HAD TO RE-TREAT AFTER APPOX 90 DAYS OF OPENING BECAUSE
THEIR UNITS STARTED TO DEGRADE SOUND WISE, I PERSONALLY
HAVEN'T TRIED EXPOSING THE INSIDES, I TRUST THE COMANY THAT
TREATS OUR PRODUCTS FOR US, KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I DO HOWEVER GUARANTEE IT WORKS AND WORKS GOOD.

JERRY

Thanks, Jerry. Any chance of explaining specifically what MST does that lends to a sonic improvement?

I did a little Google research, and found the following quote from Positive Feedback Online, Issue 22:

It stands for Molecular Stabilization Treatment and is a military secret. This is an exclusive to Audio Magic as no one else has access to it...

Really? The military has chosen to allow exclusive access of it's secret Molecular Stabilization Treatment to the manufacturer of a boutique audio accessory company?

US military secrets are for sale or license? Or, is this a Russian military secret?

Da! Nyet?

Hello Jerry,

What about my Transendence power conditioner? Does it have these IPF modules and safe to open? I just want to experiment some different duplexes with it.