There are also fakes being sold on Audiogon. Buyer beware! |
I would thus guess you are a all cables sound the same camp. No no, not at all. There’s a clear audible difference between gauges, and between geometries that considerably change inductance or capacitance. However, between cables with resistance kept at no more than 1% of the lowest impedance reached by a speaker, inductance below .2uH/ft, and capacitance below 50pF/ft, an audible difference has not been proven. |
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They sound just as good because his other cables were fakes too.
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I have to disagree about "they sound just as good'. LOL I would thus guess you are a all cables sound the same camp.
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Not only easy to fake but they sound just as good! It's disgusting! |
I have to say I no longer will buy any used cables. Period. Cables are just way too easy to fake. It is a sad state of affairs, but it is the reality of Chinese knockoffs. (Since under the skin they could be anything, just anything.) And the old story of you get what you pay for.. applies to cables too.
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There is a high probability that any name-brand cable purchased from Hong Kong or the PRC is counterfeit. |
I checked and found retail listed is $4,800, not $7,000 as listed on the ad. Actual new price is probably even lower, so the price should be well within 25-30%, or higher of the new street price. |
As a rule a price <25% of list is a big red flag -- authentic cables bottom out at 25-30% -- this one at 17% is well into "too good to be true" territory |
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There is a XLO Purple Rush listed on Audiogon right now. The seller told me he had previously contacted XLO to confirm the authenticity of his cable, but didn't get a reply. He wasn't concerned since the cable has given him outstanding performance, bettering his high-end MIT and Synergistic research cables.
A simple email to XLO resulted in an immediate reply - this cable was announced but never released to market, all Purple Rush cables are fakes - no prototypes in the wild either.
The buyer has a 100% positive feedback score totaling nearly 300, and is a member for almost 10 years.
What to make of this, and what should be done? Honest mistake or sophisticated setup? The item's been reported to Audiogon, but no action has been taken yet. If the item |
If the price is ridiculously low, the photo shows an apparently new cable, and the description includes phrases like "barely used" or "demo" that's a clue.
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So, how do you know if you have the real XLO?
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Thanks! for sharing your story- taviran. You guys are correct in that china does sell counterfeit cabling. They have it down to a fine science.
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Only buy used on Audiogon as ebay sells total garbage. |
I have had some real loosers from China however I have had some fabulous winners from Chinese vendors. The best sub $800 power cable I have heard was an unknown brand cable with multiple ribbon and rectangular wires and I still have them in my system. I was totally screwed on a headphone cable for my HiFimans that was supposed to be solid silver and was just plated copper. What I did find is that China cables REALLY benefit from cryo treating. I worked in a NYC shop for years and was able to accumulate a lot of great cables in my stash and some of the cryoed China stuff is very good. My guess is that they do not extrude the metal with as much care as the best cables are.
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Companies like XLO, Audioquest, Cardas, Tara Labs, and many more have had many problems with fake cables from China.
BUYER BEWARE!!!!
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