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I have just read Art Dudley's review of the Quattro Supreme (Stereophile, October issue), a table spawned from the basic Teres design. (The friendship, then break-up of the original Teres group is also mentioned as a side story.)

I have no experience with the Teres but the Supreme - a design very similar to the Teres - priced at $6,000 got a "B" rating (actually meaningless, but someone's got to give it some rating because we are a rating-mad people!).

Why doesn't Chris Brady send Art a table so that he could at least give the Teres a good review and exposure?

Art's reference, the LP12, by the way, beat the Supreme in one area: PRaT.

Cheers,
George
ngeorge

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I read with interest Art Dudley’s review of the Galibier Quattro Supreme in the October Issue of Stereophile. Once I got past his tedious, Brothers-Karamazov-like saga that began the article, I could tell almost immediately by Art’s tone, and his initial use of a Graham Robin tonearm, that he was not enamored with the Quattro. That’s really too bad.

There are a number of really fine turntables on the market today from Galibier, Teres, Redpoint, Verdier, Pluto, La Luce, Transrotor (their high-end models), and Kuzma Stabi, just to name a few. I would even include the Clearaudio Maximum Solution with the Clearaudio TQ-1 Tonearm among these aesthetically pleasing and sonically talented over-achievers. Are any of these turntables the absolute best when compared to the Rockport Technologies System III Sirius turntable and tonearm, the SME 30 turntable with the SME Series V tonearm, the Basis B turntable, or the Walker Proscenium Gold Signature? Beats me. All of these turntables, including the Quattro, are so far beyond my budget it would be like asking me which exotic sports car is the best in the world by having me read reviews about them. And even if I could take these wonder cars for a test drive, I am in no position to evaluate them properly. So it was with Art Dudley and the Quattro Supreme.

What really is the extent of Art’s knowledge? In his review of the Graham Robin tonearm, he openly admitted to having only three turntables on hand for testing, one of which was the Linn and two of which were clearly budget-oriented components. Although the Linn is an okay table for the money, it has not been a world-beater for quite some time. Furthermore, considering its cost for the fully loaded version, it doesn’t represent a particularly good value anymore. Moreover, I am sure most of you have noticed a bias in Art’s writing, which favors British-made audio components, much the same way Harry Pearson loves to ramble on favorably about VPI turntables, as was the case in the latest TAS issue.

“Forget about "correct" PRaT…PRaT is what makes you want to dance, or nod your head, or tap your feet, or wave your arms: it is biological…Only a truly awful musical ensemble…will fail to get the rhythm, and the equipment which fails to retrieve it from a recording is, quite simply, a failure.” -- Johnnantais

Far too much is made of pace, rhythm, and timing; I see this often in product reviews. PRaT, while important, is not the only factor to consider in a turntable. Speed consistency, wow and flutter, rumble, freedom from sonic feedback, reliability, stability, sonic balance and neutrality, musicality, system synergy, ease of use, size, cost, and aesthetics – these are only some of the parameters that need to be considered carefully when one purchases a new table. To use PRaT as the deciding factor as to whether a component is a Class A contender or only an also ran is a gross oversimplification. But apparently that is what Art did. His article showed us his overall lack of experience with turntables of exotic design; it showed us his lack of understanding of the Quattro Supreme in particular; it showed his unwillingness to take the time to give the Quattro a thorough test with a good tonearm, like the Schroder, which did occur after one was provided for an audition that was far too short; it showed his sophist tendencies, his interest in being an iconoclast, his preference for turning a cute or interesting phrase at the expense of a fair and balanced review. Such a review, while useful for prospective customers, is rather pedantic for those who thirst for literary flare.

As for a shootout, I am not in favor of one. It would not give each turntable manufacturer the best opportunity to show off his or her product in a favorable light. What might be more useful would be to create a situation in which manufacturers could come to demonstrate their latest inventions using an audio system of their choosing in an atmosphere that encouraged cooperation, discovery, inquiry, and non-competitiveness. It would be an art/music fair of sorts, not a sporting event in which the crowd lusts for a winner while the loser is thrown to the lions. In my opinion, there would be no losers at such a show, just a collection of turntables offering different sonic and aesthetic values and attributes to meet the needs of a very diverse analog-loving public.

Johnnantais,

You don't know me at all so everything you wrote about me is a projection of yourself. Others might be intimidated by you, but I am not. I see you for what you are – an unabashed windbag and pompous ass who likes pawn-shop turntables.

Johnnantais,

“PRaT is the MOST important factor, since the sense of musicality arises from PRaT, or timing or whichever facet of correct speed you want to talk about.”

Nothing like a reductionist, someone who takes a very complex series of events or complex phenomena and reduces them to a single, overly simplified explanation or root cause.

“By this I mean, if one has to accept less than perfection and sacrifices must be made, where does one make the sacrifices? I submit that musicality (PRaT) is the one thing that must NEVER be sacrificed.”

That’s your opinion.

“I would also point out that correct timing (PRaT), IS "speed stability, wow and flutter" and the more stable the speed the better the PRaT will be.”

Really? Most budget, direct-drive turntables have excellent measured speed stability and very low wow and flutter, but sound drab compared to many well-made, belt-driven turntable systems, which, albeit, cost much more.

“Let us bow before these Mighty Creations as they have ludicrous price tags far beyond our reach.”

Feeling a tiny bit jealous are we?

“Try the experiment to verify my assertions, I've thrown this particular gauntlet down several times over the last year with a 100% success rate so far (even my enemies admitted the Lenco's great sonic prowess and musical power), all are welcome to join and report on the results.”

Enemies? I think you are taking this issue way too seriously. And I am not surprise to see that you are pushing your own product, or creation. You’re not biased a bit, are you?

“I would describe him [Art Dudley] as a man of courage and integrity…”

I would describe Art as being cavalier and perhaps lacking in extensive turntable experience by his own admission. His article did not impress me, nor am I impressed by your post, a wandering diatribe about the virtues of PRaT and turntable musicality. If it weren’t for 4yanx’s endorsement of your views, I would have completely dismissed your post as a misguided rant by one who is overly sensitive and unduly attached to his own opinions and rhetoric.