//Oh was not aware that you live in the Balkan’s. Shipping from there would not be worth it.//
Lol, that was funny. Man, we are in the middle of nowhere...
Thanks Ale for the good words.
Alex’s invitation/proposal for you guys, stands for me too, if you would be anywhere near Split, Croatia, feel free to contact me. I will gladly welcome you/show you around.
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Damn, What Have You Done and The Worst Thing left me speechless...
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Dizzy always makes me feel dizzy in the land of the living dead. This one remains to be one of my favourite's...
Will have to add Olinga on my list too. :thumbs up:
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orpheus
///As you already know Rok, I detest stylists who do vocal gymnastics when they are totally uncalled for, and on the wrong song.///
Hate to say that I agree. I rarely judge any pro-musician since all of them did certain amount of effort just to perform (and usually they can do much more than it seems) and I appreciate that but in this case, the vocal decoration is over-sufficient. For my taste.
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*U registraturi/Croatian TV drama, main role Rade Serbedzija
Music/Arsen Dedic, Croatian singer-songwriter
Cover/2Cellos, Croatian musicians
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Correction "they choose you".
Damn, I obviously skipped Rok’s English Class.
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Hi guys, Billy the Kid aka Alex, told me that you had asked for me. Frogman and pryso, that was very kind of you. I haven’t ran away but had some private issues that kept me occupied quite well so I needed to focus on that. However, I didn’t forget you, you surely had hiccups (yes, that was from me), ’cause I was lurking you whenever I catched some free time. Great songs you all post + you give these songs your personal touch just by the way you posting them here. Quite enjoyable to read and listen, I’ll say. Yesterday, my friend told me that she had a dream about me having a small and cozy hotel in the center of New York. So, since she dreamed about this, this must have been the truth - tonight we are having special guests in our hotel club and of course, you are all invited. : )
Dress Code, back to 50’s...so give us your best and do not forget to shine your shoes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sYdUGoIqUM Sinatra and Louis Armstrong Birth of the Blues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd_JDrnBMMALouie and the Moon River "Two drifters, off to see the world There’s such a lot of world to see We’re after the same rainbow’s end, waitin’ ’round the bend My huckleberry friend, moon river, and me ..." |
Would you like to learn to tango, Donna ?
Right now ?
I’m offering you my services...free of charge. What do you say?
What do you say ?
Ah...I think I’d be a little afraid.
Of what ?
Afraid of making a mistake.
There are no mistakes in the tango, Donna, not like life.
It’s simple. That’s what makes the tango so great.
If you make a mistake, get all tangled up, just tango on.
Why don’t you try ? Will you try it?
All right. I’ll give it a try. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2zTd_YwTvo |
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And he posts...Dance with me...
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Fro, that was very nice post, thank you for that scene. You have an ear and the eye for details, I like that.
Pacino is great actor, one of my favourites. |
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After all music that I have recently posted and after your Zappa, I just have to post this. I think orpheus has recently posted it but I am not sure... Joe Henderson - Canyon Lady https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cnl7wF8YCII guess all the roads lead to jazz my man... |
...yes fro, humor actually saves the whole thing, in many cases.
If it is not too tragic, it has to be funny.
Cleveland is great and as for Lovano, when I heard the Tenor Time at first, I thought, man, this is Coltrane. It is obviously obvious since even me can notice that. |
inna, I wish you haven't done that. Your posts are of much value for this thread. |
pryso, you are so lucky for having dad like that. Mine was not interested in the music. A practical, hardheaded man that mostly if not only, had his work on his mind. In order to survive so he said. O yes, he survived but at what cost? To grow with the music from the early age is a great privilege... I thank you for the clip, it is as if I am listening the song with you and your dad, somewhere long time ago...it is like being on a Sentimental journey which reminds me of... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKNE4JPN6pc(shaking my head to wake myself up....) frogman, you devil in disguise, lol, I had to google to find the true meaning of your ’WMRD’. :)) "White Man’s Rhythm Disease/WMRD: the poor disease that effects more than 90% of white people except for the occasional "oreo case" in which a white person can dance just as good as a black person; also known to the less challenged community as "white boy can’t dance" You surely know that singing ahead of the beat gives more of a propulsive feel, like constantly moving forward. So often singers (referring to pro - singers) do that deliberately...But I can accept the fact that the guy cannot sing/dance. :) p.s. Do you dance well? I challenge you to dance with me. (But if you have big feet maybe we should dance separately.) |
inna, I appreciate your attitude and I understand you. I witnessed this "quarrel" many times and wanted to react. Partly I agree with rok when he says something like "who are we to say/judge anything" - and this opinion stopped me for doing anything but partly I thought that something should be said from the rest of us. It is more stupid just to ignore it and pretend that nothing is going on. I follow this thread whenever I have the time to do so but on the other hand I do not follow it in detail ('cause you guys produce the jazz clips faster than an average bakery produces donuts per a day) so I cannot be familiar with all what is said between fro and orpheus. One has to be fully involved to understand. If nothing then out of respect for the both guys. But from what I can see, I have never seen fro making the first step in the quarrel (this is where I do not agree with rok). It was orpheus. Fro continued to be in the defensive mode and in my opinion, if somebody throw a stone on you, I am perfectly fine with the fact that you throw the stone (not bread like Jesus) on him back. Therefore, fro's reactions are justified. And frankly, I admire the guy and his patience. He obviously care about a jazz a lot (this is jazz thread after all) to put aside the personal things. As for orpheus, it is hard for me to say anything since I respect the guy. But whenever I see him provoking fro, I say to myself, oh my god, there he goes again. Then I remember that he is going through rough times so I let it go. Think about some jazz players, mildly would be to say that they had an awful behaviour, but you still like their music, don't you? So personal issues (if there are any) are to be let go (?) in order to put the jazz on the first place. If we would not do that, this thread would quickly fall apart. OK, say it as rok said and move on. And if nothing, I even think that now and then, such situations attracts people to follow this thread even more. People like to see blood. I can already see them watching and cheering. There is no biz like showbiz... But orpheus, with all due respect, take it easy man... So jazz... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP02sgYrHsw |
:) ok, i’ll take your word for it.
So O-10 is a dancer? Few moves are barely enough (:)) but now, when you have mentioned this, his writing style on this forum ’reminds me’ of him as if wearing a suit for dancing, showing the elegancy while moving smoothly along the dance floor. He has something special.
p.s. sorry, can’t picture him in a tribe...:) |
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Alex, will you pass me that popcorn?
By the way, "The Sidewinder" by Lee Morgan is absolutely fantastic.
I can't imagine this thread without orpheus nor without frogman. Huge contribution from both sides. That is so obvious.
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Following recent discussion and speaking of the musician’s performance, I was always wondering, can musicians devote themselves equally to the voice and to the instrument when playing and singing at the same time? And all that in their perfection? Will at some point the performance of the instrument "suffer" when the delivery gets stronger through their voice or vice versa?
For instance, should a singer like Nina, let somebody else accompanied her on the piano in order to get the perfection out of the both performances?
The result would be really - perfection in full, I mean that is logical. But then another question arises.
Would she sing equally better when she uses her voice only and does not accompany herself on the piano in comparison with the previously mentioned combination?
I mean, one man show gives you certain advantages. Whatever comes out is under your control and it gives you the huge amount of freedom in performing. At one point you can decide to play faster and to sing faster, you can decide to improvise, you can do whatever damn you want.
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Stopped by to see what jazz experts are doing...I see that club is working overtime, plenty of awesome music...wow |
(1) Fro, thank you very much for your answer. But your announcements (every once a while) that you will actually post it was funny to me in the terms of the rhythm. I liked it. It was as if you were announcing something public – you make a speech and at crucial points there is a break time and you hear the drums, „bam“, „bam“. After the drums the speech continues. Instead of drums, I heard you saying, „I haven’t forgotten mary-jo“. ** Your thoughts on the subject are very interesting to me. Especially in the following part: ////*** For instance, should a singer like Nina, let somebody else accompanied her on the piano in order to get the perfection out of the both performances? **** I don’t think so. The end result would be very different. Again, depends on the performer and the strength and flexibility of each skill. While I don’t think Simone is one of these, some lesser performers may actually need to accompany themselves since their instrument can be seen as a crutch or musical security blanket; they might feel naked without it. The quality of the end result depends on having complete control of both. Listen to how perfectly in sinc the “dialogue” between the voice and piano is in Simone’s case. It is akin to a conversation between identical twins or old married couples; they can finish sentences for each other. This is not say that I think she is a fantastic piano player in absolute terms. I don’t; as evidenced in part by the fact that we don’t find recordings (any?) by other artists with Simone on piano. She was the perfect piano player FOR HER music. Conversely, many great jazz piano players are not necessarily great accompanists to singers. It is a specific skill./// This surely covers all. This is the answer. One cannot say more about it. I like the pancake part too but never tried it in such combination. I |
(2) I like Nina. Regardless of the performing (im)perfection of each of her skill, she delivers good, at least to me. She has that what people tend to say these days, X-factor (I do not know what it means but it sounds damn good.). And that’s enough for my book. Nina. <3 Nina Simone - Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckv6-yhnIY&app=desktopThank you pryso for Nat King Cole. I was not aware (what a surprise, yes, I know) of his piano playing abilities. But did listen him singing. What a voice, man... Nat King Cole - Smile. Video - Charlie Chaplin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkNBH5fbMkNat has a smiling face so the song suits him well. : ) *** ///“Yeah, man, I know, it should be a half step higher; but I make more money when I play it that way”. /// This was indeed hysterical! |
(3) ///The acman rule: Write as few words as possible, but post as much music as possible.///
!! : ))) But lately something is wrong. I can't see him anywhere around after he said that he was offended.
Acman man, if it that was not me, tell me who that was. Rok mentioned once Minions. Well, if you need one, I will apply for it. Just come back, write as few words as possible, but post as much music as possible or write as much words as possible, but post as few music as possible (like me for instance). |
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"Forgive me Charlie Parker wherever you are." Hahaha...! |
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:)) I am fascinated long time ago with fro. But I am glad that you noticed. Stay tuned. : ))
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Acman, glad to see you back! |
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fro, (jazz is hard to follow) when measuring the bpm, the drummer is the band official’s metronome? It is over 200 at live version/Take five, right? This is not serious question, I was just playing with it on the mobile Metronome app (5/4 measure or..?). I am "sucker" for rhythm (crazy about it in every possible piece of music). I could listen Take five all day long.
pjw81563, man, I heard "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This" for the first time, long time after you. This song, if I am not mistaken, was her/Eurythmics breakthrough hit. Sadly, I neglected listenin’ Annie in her latest performances. Thanks to you, I will now correct that.
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"So today, while jazz remains my first choice, I do listen to a wide variety of other musical types. It all depends on my mood and which way the wind is blowing. ;^)"
Couldn't agree more pryso...
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Baj d vej, that was awesome list Alex, but I guess you already know that...
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Good afternoon pjw81563, thank you for the song! Great artist, Annie. p.s. It's six hours of time difference, about 16 h at your place now, +6 here. This now reminds me of...(if there are any blondes here, I will kindly ask you to skip the post) Time difference A blonde called a telephone operator. Blonde: “Could you tell me the time difference between Singapore and London?” Operator: “Just a minute…” Blonde : “Thank you” puts down the phone *** |
///I would have given my favorite cast iron skillet to have seen Trane live 😊 ///
fro, does the Hologram live performance count? Technology makes miracles these days...: ) I need a new pan to make pancakes. |
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I wish orpheus is here now too, to share his colorful stories with us. The way he does it, that’s the material for movie. |
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Thanks for a joke fro. "Laughter is the shortest distance between two people." V.B. Nice clips too... |
I am glad to see you orpheus. |
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Do not worry orph, I have almost nothing under my control. But things will be just fine. I thank you for the beautiful song.
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nsp
I posted this version
Art Pepper Quartet - You Go to My Head (1956)
Personnel: Art Pepper (alto sax), Russ Freeman (piano), Leroy Vinnegar (bass), Shelly Manne (drums)
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And yes, Peppe is all what you have said. |
orpheus Thank for your warm and colorful stories and for assigning me the role of an elegant woman with a hat. But just to make you smile and all in good fun of course. ; )
If I would have ability to play a(ny) role, that would be more like close to this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY2wGD6-j0Y
However (do not say this to anyone, this is only between me and you), this one can disarm me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl5wuQn0KJk
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orpheus, I am not quite military type of the person but could not think of anything else that would be quite opposite to the flattering image of the elegant woman with a hat. ; )
However, this subject of women in army opens different subject of my interest. It is the case as rare as woman in army. Or I could be wrong?
Women in jazz.
Not women as singers but women as piano players, trombone players, guitar players, drummers...
You're all welcome to post the suggestion. Thank you.
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I am familiar with the work of Esperanza Spalding, Geri Allen is new to me, so as Lyne and Mary Lou. Will make research on YT and will definitely dive into some old posts to see if Rok has posted something similar. Think it will be worth it since I mostly like the jazz he posts. |
orpheus man, you reminded me of a friend that I once had. Out of 10 words that I would tell to him, he would think that at least 5 of them were pointed against him in a certain way. He never asked me what I wanted to say nor he was interested in explanation. He just heard what he wanted to hear. Could not beat that.
Similar here, luckily in a milder form. I wrote that I liked Rok’s posting and failed to emphasize that I liked your postings too? And you immediately felt bad?
You are fast on the trigger. I haven’t commented Mary Lou ’cause I did not have enough time to listen her in peace. Left that for later listening.
Besides, I do not have to like all the music that you post, do I? Some of the postings are more and some are less my cup of tea. Only maybe if Alex posts a telephone book claiming that it is good jazz, I will probably like it or will catch myself thinkin’ do I like it, but that’s another thing. Don’t say this to Alex. However, I do appreciate all the contributors here. Do I really have to say it out loud to make it real?
Stay tuned, post some good jazz and relax man. I will be "silenzio stampa" for a while, ’cause have some things to do what will require lot’s of time and discipline from me.
p.s. I promise that I will listen your Mary Lou
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Great link about Nina and her voice, thank you pjw for that...
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