John Atkinson's thoughts on the New Vandersteen System Nine from LA Show


I have read JA's outstanding reviews of Vandersteen speakers for years, but this is the first time he's heard their new System Nine.  Please read all the way down as Fremer mentions the late AJ Conte's outstanding TT:  Enjoy

From JA:
The first room I went to at the 2017 LAAS was that hosted by LA dealer Optimal Enchantment featuring a system based on Vandersteen's Model Seven Mk.II speakers ($62,000/pair) and M7-HPA amplifiers ($52,000/pair), which I reviewed in May 2016, this time reinforced by a pair of Vandersteen's SUB NINEs operating below 100Hz. It may have been the first room I visited but as good as many other systems sounded, they didn't match what Vandersteen refers as System NINE for its effortless sweep of sound, precise, palpable imaging, and smooth yet detailed high frequencies. On the title cut from a test pressing of Dave Brubeck's Take Five, the reverb surrounding Joe Morello's drums in his solo was more audible than I hear from my own system and the textures of his cymbals were superbly well differentiated.

The rest of the system comprised Audio Research Corporation's REF-10 phono preamplifier and line stage, with isolation stands and bases from Harmonic Resolution Systems (HRS) and cabling and power-line conditioning by AudioQuest—a Niagara 7000 for the amplifiers and Niagara 5000 for the front-end components. But it is the LP player in this room that drew visitors' attention.

image: https://www.stereophile.com/images/060217-Basis-600.jpg

Michael Fremer shared my enthusiasm for the sound in this room, which had LPs played on the late AJ Conti's Transcendence turntable with the Super Arm fitted with a Lyra Atlas cartridge. In Mikey's words: "This turntable is the acrylic-free, minimal-plinth design I always hoped AJ would design and build."


Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/jas-final-report-2017-laas#mX8Fja9AgBY4SDyp.99
ctsooner
JA is a funny guy, and one I blame for the modern "Stereophile" curve being pursued by so many speaker makers.

Even if he's right about a speaker, he's so biased so often I no longer feel his objective reviews are worth reading.
erik,

I can understand your view.

And  I tend to find JA's reviews less descriptive, leaving me less of a sense of what a speaker sounds like.  He will tend to talk in terms of frequency response etc, whereas Michael Fremer will paint a subjective picture of the sound.  Fremer's descriptions have proven very accurate to my ears, over the years.

At the same time, I've found JA has a very keen ear, and to the extent he describes any problematical issues he hears it's often bang on. 

I actually think JA is something of a treasure in the high end world, in terms of the scope of what he has contributed.  Stereophile's measurements have been a gold mine of info.
Prof, I agree with everything you have said.  We all have favorite reviewers or maybe some hate all reviews.  JA does indeed have a keen ear and although he will find all the good things a piece will do, he won't wax poetic unless he loves a piece.  I believe that he owns Vandersteen 7's for his personal listening as many reviewers do.  I found that out AFTER I became a lover of their sound.  In the 90's, I always wanted a pair of Avalon's, lol.  Loved the cabinet and the sound. I never realized they were also a first order cross over and time and phase correct.  I felt Jim Theil's speakers could be a bit bright back then, but loved what they did.  We've really had some great designers and still do.  There's a new crop of them coming along.  

I do feel the if a speaker doesn't measure well, it usually doesn't sound good either.  I've noticed a ton of the top end speakers tipping the treble up a db to three to sound more 'open' and 'alive', but for me it shuts me down as it's irritating.  Some folks put their list of 'audition' speakers together by the measurements shared before going to listen.  It's not 100% maybe, but it's pretty close I bet.  

Spot on post in my humble opinion Prof. Thanks.
@ctsooner

That is what I call the "Stereophile" curve, or speakers for the hearing impaired. JA also did a hatchet job on the Crystal minissimo, with aspersions not in evidence.

He's just not someone I trust.

Best,

E
erik,

What exactly is the "stereophile curve?"

ctsooner described a rising treble in many speakers and you seem to attribute this to JA, yet I regularly read JA criticizing speakers for non-linearity in the high frequencies, particularly peaks or a rising treble.