So the Oyaide TUNAMI GPX-R V2 is the flagship? I didn't even know that existed. I already have the Black Mamba V2 (professionally built one) on the way. Darn at those cheaper prices I would have rather gone for the "flagship" at 300.00 than the lower performing Black Mamba cable at 200.00. That is of course if the Oyaide TUNAMI GPX-R V2 is truly the better performer Than the Black Mamba V2. I guess it could be system dependent. Anyone know sonically what the difference between these two PCs would be? I thought about trying the Matrix PC, but the inflexibility of the cord is keeping me away so far.
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I have been using the CT GE cables for almost two years.
I recently traded up for a full loom of CT Graphene Matrix cables, including speaker, interconnect and PCs, and I wanted to share my experience. I started by replacing only the ICs to try and hear the differences.
The new Matrix interconnects sounded better than the GE immediately after install. I found the original Graphene Extreme ICs to be good but not on the same level as the outstanding GE speaker cables. As break-in started to clear things up, I can hear more clarity and detail not heard before. The ICs are incredible on their own and at the 30 hour mark, I can hear a clear superiority over the GE ICs. I recently started using the Teo Game Changer ICs and preferred them over GE but the Teo has now fallen to the new Graphene Matrix ICs. My Teo’s were and are great, and it is stunning to experience Cerious Technologies commitment to making great technology better.
On the third day of listening to the GM ICs. I couldn’t wait anymore, Having too much fun. I then installed the speaker cables and power cords once I had a pretty good feel for the sound of the GM ICs.
With the full loom of GM cables running in they are going through some strange changes and definitely need time to settle down before realizing what they can really do and very important Bob says to not move them. Since I have a home office I can let them run in all day. I’m at around 120 hours now and they are still improving. Here’s what I’m hearing:
Extended highs and tighter lows.
More detail and better low level listening
Drums are tighter, more clearly defined. So real is the snap of the snare drum. The bass has more depth, seemingly goes deeper, lower. This aspect stands out the most.
I am not in the industry, I’m not an engineer, I don’t work for Cerious Technologies, but I am a fan of the cables and am enjoying what my system is capable of.
I’m closer to my own pinnacle of sound reproduction than ever before.
Lance
I have been using the CT GE cables for almost two years.
I recently traded up for a full loom of CT Graphene Matrix cables, including speaker, interconnect and PCs, and I wanted to share my experience. I started by replacing only the ICs to try and hear the differences.
The new Matrix interconnects sounded better than the GE immediately after install. I found the original Graphene Extreme ICs to be good but not on the same level as the outstanding GE speaker cables. As break-in started to clear things up, I can hear more clarity and detail not heard before. The ICs are incredible on their own and at the 30 hour mark, I can hear a clear superiority over the GE ICs. I recently started using the Teo Game Changer ICs and preferred them over GE but the Teo has now fallen to the new Graphene Matrix ICs. My Teo’s were and are great, and it is stunning to experience Cerious Technologies commitment to making great technology better.
On the third day of listening to the GM ICs. I couldn’t wait anymore, Having too much fun. I then installed the speaker cables and power cords once I had a pretty good feel for the sound of the GM ICs.
With the full loom of GM cables running in they are going through some strange changes and definitely need time to settle down before realizing what they can really do and very important Bob says to not move them. Since I have a home office I can let them run in all day. I’m at around 120 hours now and they are still improving. Here’s what I’m hearing:
Extended highs and tighter lows.
More detail and better low level listening
Drums are tighter, more clearly defined. So real is the snap of the snare drum. The bass has more depth, seemingly goes deeper, lower. This aspect stands out the most.
I am not in the industry, I’m not an engineer, I don’t work for Cerious Technologies, but I am a fan of the cables and am enjoying what my system is capable of.
I’m closer to my own pinnacle of sound reproduction than ever before.
Lance
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@t_ramey Here are a few links for BM V2 DIY: https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/chuya-online/item/92481/ Rhodium AC Set: http://www.partsconnexion.com/product33233.html BM V2 Professionally built: https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/chuya-online/item/92479/ I used Paypal for checkout and you will receive a second e-mail within 24 hrs. with your total order amount including shipping; the link will be embedded in the e-mail to pay using paypal. This cable has a drain wire and should only be connected at AC plug with the ground. Wig |
Received my Matrix speaker cables today to go with the Matrix interconnects I already have.To say they are,right out of the box, a significant improvement over the previous generation of CT speaker cables would be an understatement. They are amazing. The construction is first class and equal to or better then any I have had. Every aspect of the musical presentation has improved. Details as I get more along...Thanks Bob. |
No experience yet on the Matrix but the Oyaide Tunami Terzo V2 is a very good sounding cable and will embarrass cables upward of $1.5K+ and we are talking about $200 cables bought directly from an authorized distributor in Japan. I discovered the beauty of Oyaide SSC 102 about 2 months ago after hearing many rave about their Black Mamba V2 PC and it is fantastic; replaced my full loom of Nanotec # 308 and 1 CTE Red with these and couldn’t be happier. This DIY PC can be made for $130 total with Parts Connexion Rhodium AC Plug Set. It’s the latest copper techniques that’s driving the performance of this cable, hence the name SSC which is pure copper with a conductivity of 102. This is an Outstanding product and yields a greater performance ratio than replacing a fuse and of course it is all system dependent. Wig :) |
oyaide emphasizes more on the treble when comparing to matrix. however, it feels lighter too. it can be a bit (just a bit) too much treble on some recordings but still not harsh feeling. matrix is smoother and fuller. maybe details are a bit more and individual instruments are better seperated on matrix. overall matrix is better balance on everything. both of them are excellent cables. |
Just unplugged HF Reveal and plugged the GM XLR. Initial impression: Before Reveal, I was using Oyaide TUNAMI TERZO XX V2 (102 SSC). There is no significant difference between 6th day and 10th day burn-in for the Reveal. Reveal is good. Compare to Oyaide, I would describe Reveal natural and smooth. But is too smooth on my system and treble is too conservative. However the weight is better than Oyaide. Now the GM, it is simply the weight and smoothness of Reveal + clarity of Oyaide. This is what I want. This is just the beginning and I cant believe it is already that good. Can’t wait to see how it improve after burn-in. BTW, given the very affordable price tag, I would say Oyaide offers the best for the price. |
littlecx, I owned the Reveal balanced Interconnects through out my system and I thought they sounded great! But, once I heard the Cerious Matrix cables, I sold all the Reveals. For as good as the Reveals were the Cerious Matrix just made the music sound more lifelike. Once you use the Cerious Matrix you will get what I mean. ozzy |
@littlecx, NO! Change out the interconnects as soon as you want, don't shut down your system other than to change your interconnects. Just be aware that the sound, for a day or two might be influenced by magnetic conduction. Really won't matter much because you have to burn in the new interconnects anyway and the sound will change a bit. |
@littlecx, sounds like your system has been running 24/7 with a signal going through the Reveal interconnects correct? Don't forget when you replace the Reveal with the GM there is going to be a lingering effect of the magnetic conduction for a couple of days, no big deal, I just wanted to mention that because a lot of people don't necessarily realize it. Go for it! |
Update on my impressions of GM cables: GM Interconnects DS (XLR) - two pairs in my system - about 250+ hours on them. Best interconnect I even used. Top to bottom coherency, have good pace - not sounding either fast or slow. GM Digital DS (XLR) - about 90 hours in - miles better than the GE digital, which replaced a Nordost Valhalla 1. Sound is liquid. Speaker Cables are installed in second system for burn in. Will post results a week from now. |
@rgrost "Best guess the Standard are 90% of the DS. As Audiophiles we know that the last 10% is the hardest to achieve and the most costly. So far we have sold the Damping Squared as most are upgrading from GE. If I pushed the Standard, customers would ask me why I sold them this when there is something "Better" out there. " I think you should offer both with good description and differences between the two on your site, BUT allow customers to decide/choose what they prefer. That said, I think you should push both since there's a price difference, and like most things, budget is a determining factor for customers. |
Hi everybody...Bob from Cerious. Yes we do offer two different versions of the Matrix interconnects ; "Standard" which has no damping jacket and look much like Graphene Extreme on the outside, and "Damping Squared" which employs a sophisticated damping jacket. The Standard are cheaper ($999 pair vs $1249 pair RCA) and more flexible, but the Damping Squared sound better. Best guess the Standard are 90% of the DS. As Audiophiles we know that the last 10% is the hardest to achieve and the most costly. So far we have sold the Damping Squared as most are upgrading from GE. If I pushed the Standard, customers would ask me why I sold them this when there is something "Better" out there. I always recommend to go with the DS version simply because it is the ultimate expression of the Matrix line. Orders: yes we are currently slow. I moved my son from Michigan shortly before Christmas to join the company and help with production. Teaching and training slows down the process but will - in the long run - enable me to focus on things like communication which clearly everyone would appreciate(!). We assumed that with the introduction of Matrix that it would take some wind out of the sails of Graphene Extreme, but nothing could be further from the truth - sales have only increased on the GE. Believe me we are working long hours to get out PERFECT Matrix line cables and will get faster. It is tough to track who has posted discussing delays as posting IDs are different than names and trying to figure out who is who is a brain teaser. Just write me at rgrost@cerioustechnologies.com or call 623-703-9771 (especially you John!) and I will try to be available to answer the phone. The Matrix is worth the wait and we are going absolutely as fast as we can but never compromising quality. Thank you so much and Happy New Year! Bob CT |
My first visit to their web page I remember reading a brief discription of the two top end interconnects, the standard Graphene Matrix RCA for $1000.00 and the Graphene Matrix Damping Squared for $1200.00. My second visit to their web page I don’t recall seeing the standard Matrix mentioned also I had trouble scrolling through the discription and thought that could be my iPad acting up however didn’t someone mention the layout of their web page was totally new ? Just some constructive criticism,...I don’t like thier site one bit and it would be nice seeing better photos of their product line ,.. |
Before I ordered my interconnects, I asked Bob this exact question. So far, he is only selling the damping squared model even though the website mentions the other. Like another poster here, although I ordered them just before Christmas, I haven't heard anything since. Hopefully we'll get some updates on our orders soon now that the holidays are over. |
