New Tweak --- Its Fantastic
THE NEW TWEAK
Over the good part of this past year I’ve been beta testing a new tweak, the name of which is "Total Contact." Its a hi-bred graphene contact enhancer that is different from all other contact enhancers that have come and gone for one reason or another. I’m not new to these contact enhancers, having had quite a bit of experience with a product developed by the late Brian Kyle and his "Quick Silver" contact enhancer. The "Total Contact" is different ... a LOT different.
"Total Contact" is graphene based and is not a vibration control. It eliminates micro-arching between two contacts. Micro-arching, much like Micro-vibration smears the sound in our stereo systems. Its the type of distortion that we don’t know is there .... until we eliminate it. There is no break-in as we know it. The sound is improved right off the bat, but what you hear is only a smidgen of what’s to come.
I tested three generations of "TC," each of which was an improvement over the previous incarnation. The final mix was cryogenitically treated and made for a more effective, much smoother application. It comes in a large hypodermic needle type plunger containing 1.5 ml of product and includes a instructional DVD and an application brush.
The application should be applied with a very thin coat to all of your electrical connections .... from your cartridge pins to your power cords. I did my entire system, including the ends of my fuses.
Upon initial application, you will notice an improvement in clarity, correctness of tonal balance and a more overall organic sound. But ... that is just scratching the surface of what this magic paste does. As it cures, the improvements become more apparent. Much more!
There are two real break-through events that happen almost to the day with "Total Contact," one at four weeks and another at eight weeks . At four weeks, you’ll get a real jump in clarity and overall improvement. That’s only a taste though of what’s to come at eight weeks. At eight weeks your system’s focus will make a jump in SQ that is so real - its surreal.
After 40 years in the hobby, and a total tweak nut, I have never heard anything that does what this graphene paste does. The see-through clarity at eight weeks becomes simply amazing. The "paste" eventually cures into a kind of polymer plastic and it seems that the sound improves with each listening session. So, its important that you leave your contacts alone for the duration. If you’re the type of person that continually switches wires in and out, you’ll have to re paste until enough time has elapsed to get "the cure."
The only problem I had was with the first batch and that had to do with shorting out a tube pin in the line stage. Use the "TC" very sparingly on tube pins, if at all. I only had problems with the line stage tube pins. The Amp, CD Player and Phono Stage has had no tube pin problems at all.
Tim Mrock, one of our fellow A’goners, is the developer of the product. Its taken Tim 15 years and several patents to get it right. Tim has "pasted" every electrical contact he can find in his audio system, all of the switches in his circuit breaker box, every contact in his car ... and has used it in commercial applications such as hospital circuit breakers, surgical lights ... and other places where efficiency and long life of electrical components are deemed important.
This product is highly recommended to anyone who truly wants to get the most out of his/her audio systems. There’s enough product in each tube to do at least two audio systems as it just takes a very thin coat on each application to be effective. The last tube was enough to do my system twice and then a friend’s system this past weekend.
Frank
PS: There were a couple of other A’goner beta testers of this product as well. Hopefully, they will chime in here with their experiences for comparison. I "pasted" both of Steve Fleschler’s systems a few days ago, perhaps he will comment on his results too. We forgot to paste Steve’s power cords though, so there’s a lot more to be had from Steve’s two fantastic systems.
Frank
Over the good part of this past year I’ve been beta testing a new tweak, the name of which is "Total Contact." Its a hi-bred graphene contact enhancer that is different from all other contact enhancers that have come and gone for one reason or another. I’m not new to these contact enhancers, having had quite a bit of experience with a product developed by the late Brian Kyle and his "Quick Silver" contact enhancer. The "Total Contact" is different ... a LOT different.
"Total Contact" is graphene based and is not a vibration control. It eliminates micro-arching between two contacts. Micro-arching, much like Micro-vibration smears the sound in our stereo systems. Its the type of distortion that we don’t know is there .... until we eliminate it. There is no break-in as we know it. The sound is improved right off the bat, but what you hear is only a smidgen of what’s to come.
I tested three generations of "TC," each of which was an improvement over the previous incarnation. The final mix was cryogenitically treated and made for a more effective, much smoother application. It comes in a large hypodermic needle type plunger containing 1.5 ml of product and includes a instructional DVD and an application brush.
The application should be applied with a very thin coat to all of your electrical connections .... from your cartridge pins to your power cords. I did my entire system, including the ends of my fuses.
Upon initial application, you will notice an improvement in clarity, correctness of tonal balance and a more overall organic sound. But ... that is just scratching the surface of what this magic paste does. As it cures, the improvements become more apparent. Much more!
There are two real break-through events that happen almost to the day with "Total Contact," one at four weeks and another at eight weeks . At four weeks, you’ll get a real jump in clarity and overall improvement. That’s only a taste though of what’s to come at eight weeks. At eight weeks your system’s focus will make a jump in SQ that is so real - its surreal.
After 40 years in the hobby, and a total tweak nut, I have never heard anything that does what this graphene paste does. The see-through clarity at eight weeks becomes simply amazing. The "paste" eventually cures into a kind of polymer plastic and it seems that the sound improves with each listening session. So, its important that you leave your contacts alone for the duration. If you’re the type of person that continually switches wires in and out, you’ll have to re paste until enough time has elapsed to get "the cure."
The only problem I had was with the first batch and that had to do with shorting out a tube pin in the line stage. Use the "TC" very sparingly on tube pins, if at all. I only had problems with the line stage tube pins. The Amp, CD Player and Phono Stage has had no tube pin problems at all.
Tim Mrock, one of our fellow A’goners, is the developer of the product. Its taken Tim 15 years and several patents to get it right. Tim has "pasted" every electrical contact he can find in his audio system, all of the switches in his circuit breaker box, every contact in his car ... and has used it in commercial applications such as hospital circuit breakers, surgical lights ... and other places where efficiency and long life of electrical components are deemed important.
This product is highly recommended to anyone who truly wants to get the most out of his/her audio systems. There’s enough product in each tube to do at least two audio systems as it just takes a very thin coat on each application to be effective. The last tube was enough to do my system twice and then a friend’s system this past weekend.
Frank
PS: There were a couple of other A’goner beta testers of this product as well. Hopefully, they will chime in here with their experiences for comparison. I "pasted" both of Steve Fleschler’s systems a few days ago, perhaps he will comment on his results too. We forgot to paste Steve’s power cords though, so there’s a lot more to be had from Steve’s two fantastic systems.
Frank
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Well I read the whole thread and it’s all about how wonderful this product is and maybe it is wonderful, I don’t know. But it reads like an advertisement or an info commercial and the guy is confirming orders and talking tracking numbers and if this isn’t pretty factual info than excuse me. But it is a big advertisement for a product |
fleschler275 posts06-08-2018 4:13pmWhy is it that so many GON forums are for the purpose of conversation concerning various audio products? Are they also in violation of the forum "code"? What purpose are the forums if one @fleschler There are plenty of threads where people tout a particular product or service. And that is generally accepted. IMO, what’s different on this one is that this thread seems to be the only place the product is marketed. There isn’t a web store where you can buy it. You can’t get it at a dealer. It’s not on Amazon. So if the only way to get it is to email (PM) someone in this thread, then this is a commercial use of an AGon thread. That is why I gave props to amg56. I could certainly misunderstand. I read much of this thread, but not everything. There’s a lot of senseless drivel in here that’s way off topic, and I couldn’t stand to read 1700+ comments, too many of which are attacks on other posters. |
Why is it that so many GON forums are for the purpose of conversation concerning various audio products? Are they also in violation of the forum "code"? What purpose are the forums if one cannot write about a product? There are 1000s of forums concerning products, why is TC so different? I’m sure the same denigrators of this forum feel the same way concerning SR fuses, SR cables, SR duplexes, SR HFTs, etc. etc. No one is twisting one’s arm to agree or purchase SR products or anyone else’s products. I am happy to read of real life experiences with products by owners of them. Unfortunately, audio systems and acoustic spaces do not respond similarly in one circumstance as in another which can often be attributed to synergistic effects between products (or lack thereof). My back-up EAR 890 amp works great on Legacy Signature IIIs and terrible on Legacy Focuses, attributable to the latter’s low impedance in the bass. If it wasn’t for Frank, I would not have ventured into purchasing SR products, especially the duplexes, fuses and HFT system. |
soundermn ... Thanks for stopping by the pub. As long as you don’t start raising hell in the pub and try to burn it down like a few arsonists have in the past, you are welcome here. And no ... I am not a moderator, only the person who started the thread, and one who wants to keep it on track without personal attacks or attempts to destroy a fellow businessman who is trying to introduce a new product. For clarity, I humbly suggest that you start on page one and read the thread in its entirety with an open mind. Hopefully, you’ll gain some insight into what I’m talking about. Frank. |
aalenik ... Brian was a friend of mine as well ... and you are spot on in your assessment of him. Brian and I had a blast one year at CES trying to get some of the rooms to use a little of his X-treme. We were successful in only one display, that of a major manufacturer ... and it made a significant improvement. Frank |
@oregonpapa It seems like you have appointed yourself as the moderator and now you are deciding who should be thrown out. I don't think that's how it works, bud. I've been lurking on this thread, and I read a lot of it. Now, I'm commenting, so does that mean I should be removed too, because I am a "drunk who staggers in from the pub down the street"? +1 for @amg56 calling this out as a marketing thread. That IS what this is. oregonpapa OP2,217 posts06-08-2018 9:18amAMG ... |
AMG ... Sorry your nose is bent. What you think of as "deceit," I, and others, see this thread as a sort of social club for those who are TC enthusiasts. Its kind of like a local pub where like-minded folks meet. Every once in awhile, a drunk staggers in from the pub down the street and starts raising hell here. As they start to act up, or vomit on the floor, we just toss them out on their ear. Unfortunately, some don’t get the message and need further tossing. You’re sort of a newcomer who staggered into the pub, and right away, you start telling the regulars and the barkeep how you don’t like the barmaid. Well, as I said, there are other pubs down the street with different barkeeps and different barmaids that you might find more to your liking. Go there if you’ll feel more comfortable. Obviously, in reading the entire 36 page thread, you’ve missed all of the discussions in this thread that have nothing to do with TC. Various music recommendations, for example. In the meantime guys ... If you like the Hammond B-3, here’s an excellent recording. Great playing. Especially good is the presence of the drum set ... its among the best in my collection. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Joey-DeFrancesco-All-or-Nothing-at-All-New-CD/361812530483?epid=54443031&am... Frank |
tlong1958"whoever is responsible for enforcing the rules is asleep at the wheel' This is an unjustified, unwarranted and inappropriate attack against the team of Moderators who manage, control and monitor this site they deserve your cooperation and respect you do not know what you are talking about and would be well adviced to get your facts in order before launching unfounded criticism against the group. |
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amg56, I don't believe you are a moderator here? Bottom line, if the moderators agreed with you, and others, that this thread was in violation of forum rules, they would have shut it down by now. They haven't, so...? You can protest all you want, but, just like I have no control over what you post, you have to live with what the moderators decide. |
@oregonpapa You and Tim have use this forum to fish for participants (or suckers) for the commercial product TC. Do you agree or disagree that Total Contact sold by Tim Mrock is a commercial product? Simple question that the moderators of this site should take note of. You have been actively spruiking this product since 26 Dec 2017. It has used 36 pages of spruiking to say very little. Sales people, or reputable products do not take 36 pages of a forum that is inappropriate for a commercial product. Why has Tim Mrock not set up his own web page for his product and reviewers, instead of hiding behind an inappropriate forum to ADVERTISE and SELL his commercial product. This is not the appropriate place, according to Audiogon Policy (I can cite the policy if you want), to advertise, promote and sell a commercial product. Why are you so blatantly deceitful about your dealings on this thread. It is NOT yours, nor is it available to sell commercial goods. I believe in honesty. Why am I anal about this. Because it is deceitful behaviour. I hate deceit of any kind. That's me; And I will stand up for myself. |
Tom, I’ve asked you several times to explain what in Tarnation you’re talking about. The last time I asked you to explain, a couple weeks ago, you copped out by saying you had to catch a plane. So, I’ll ask you again. Instead of repeating the same, “it’s the Polarity of Shear” mantra of yours over and over can you try explain in detail what the devil you’ve been trying to say all these years. If you have some big breakthrough to announce the stage is all yours. This is your Big Chance. Am I not fair? |
AMG ... Yep, Tim has contributed to this thread. Its a new product and its uses need some clarification at times ... therefore, Tim has to give his input.
Thanks for reading completely though the 36 pages. Did you miss the fact that the only times I’ve taken issue with the "naysayers" was in retribution for those few who use bullying tactics and/or personal attacks, or did that get by you? Question: Ad or no ad ... why does it get your nose out of joint? If it upsets you, or makes you uncomfortable in any way, I’m sorry .... but as you’re aware, there are other threads and other forums available to you. Perhaps you’d be more comfortable spending your time there instead of here. Take care .... Frank |
This thread is an obvious commercial enterprise filled with the same hyperbole and sales zeal as the SR red and black fuse threads. It's "Beta testers to sales generators," and hey...Mrock gets 3 grand for every 10 bottles of this stuff he moves so he SHOULD share the profit with his athletic supporters as he utterly owes 'em...now back to my $500 fuses...if I can move 20 of these a week... |
@oregonpapa The person responsible for TC HAS posted on this thread and discusses shipments and other commercial discussions with other posters. Don't say this thread hasn't been used as a direct commercial conduit, because it happens to be in black and white, and just a few pages back if you care to read. Again, this forum is being used for direct commercial gain where other manufacturers can't. Rules are supposed to apply to everyone aren't they? |
@oregonpapa I would not call 36 pages of posts "The small stuff". As TM's front man you have done nothing but denigrate naysayers but put up little in the way of measurements to support TC used in the audio arena. This thread is and has been one big blatant advertisement for a product, which should follow the site policy, or do the moderators and site admin allow favouritism to certain products? As a moderator on another forum you should know better, and act as you should on these threads. @geoffkait Geoff, forever trolling through any subject regardless of interest adding his idiotic little posts like, a little terrier dog at you ankles. perhaps when you reach 10,000you might go poof! or splat, like what doggies doo. I read threads and posts to learn. If you can't say what you need to say in 2 or 3 posts then you are being deliberately obstructive or evasive, or you don't possess command of the language that you need to repeat, and repeat your self. I think you both just love the sight of your own posts. |
AMG .. Stop sweating the small stuff. This is my thread and not Tim Mrock's thread. I'm not being paid a red cent for my input here. I'm just an audio enthusiast who has found what he believes to be a product that will transform the audio and video hobby. My goal is to share the experience with other enthusiasts like myself ... and possibly you. If Tim Mrock becomes a multi-bizzionaire because of this thread ... well, he deserves it. My suggestion is that you try the product and then go from there with your opinions. Take care ... Frank |
Mribob .. Thanks for coming over, Bob. As usual, I enjoyed your company. " Mos" and Robert stayed until 10:30 pm and we continued the listening session and then watched a little TV while we ate the Cheeseburgers I made. The noise floor is really low as you heard. We tried an experiment after you left. Mos brought his custom mat from his Well Tempered turntable to try. We could clearly hear a degradation in the sound with the mat. Here's the interesting thing, we also found that the analog sounds better ... more extended highs and a more open presentation without the clamp. I've been listening with this clamp for years now and never knew the difference. These are things that were hidden before the latest TC pasting. I'll demonstrate it for you the next time you're over. Frank |
Geoff: Seriously?!?!? Doesn't this count: --------------------------------------------------------- rel 06-07-18 6:30 PM Actually I know exactly what the phrase begs the question means and how to use it in a sentence. My father was an English professor. I'd call that a naked appeal to authority... --------------------------------------------------------- Sorry to all for the derail. I'll try to put it permanently to rest. The thread is really interesting, but I thought it might be fun to call GK on a logical and grammatical error, as he often makes it a point to do so with others. Oh well... |
rel Sorry, Geoff, but son of an English professor or not, you're just flat-out wrong. Any form of argument where the conclusion is assumed in one of the premises. Many people use the phrase “begging the question” incorrectly when they use it to mean, “prompts one to ask the question”. That is NOT the correct usage. Begging the question is a form of circular reasoning https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/53/Begging-the-Question For example: Q: Why do you hate him so much? A: Because I can't stand him! Now THAT is "begging the question." It’s a pretty stupid criticism. I see what you mean but so what? Talk about petty. It’s a classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees. Besides, you didn’t catch my obvious appeal to authority, “my father was an English professor.” So that makes us even. |
Sorry, Geoff, but son of an English professor or not, you're just flat-out wrong. Any form of argument where the conclusion is assumed in one of the premises. Many people use the phrase “begging the question” incorrectly when they use it to mean, “prompts one to ask the question”. That is NOT the correct usage. Begging the question is a form of circular reasoninghttps://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/53/Begging-the-Question For example: Q: Why do you hate him so much? A: Because I can't stand him! Now THAT is "begging the question." |
rel, I’m right and you’re wrong. It wasn’t an appeal to anything. Fleschler said it had been seven months since first applying TC. The unanswered question, the one begging to be asked, is has he reached the end of the line with TC, since hasn’t done anything in seven months, or so I concluded from his statement. And apparently the answer is yes, he has. He reached Nirvana. Follow? |
I’m shocked. (When worlds collide. “Fuses have only one purpose.”) But seriously, we’ve had all silver fuses for like forever. HiFi Tuning Supreme. 99% pure silver and 1% pure gold tip to tip. And they’re directional! We’ve also had silver fuse holders since Fabio was an audiophile. From Acme, the company that supplies Wiley Coyote with those cool rocket skates and other fun stuff. |
