Question for cable/wire naysayers.....


For those who state that cables don't make a difference...... are you saying that all cables sound the same?  If not, what are you saying?   I've experimented with many different brands and materials and I can't possibly believe that those naysayers hear no differences.   And if the science says that the cables should sound the same, a simple experiment (listening!!!) should prove otherwise.  Or, are these naysayers not listening for changes in resolution, soundstaging/imaging, coherence.....and so on between cables?  Please elaborate on what you are NOT hearing and feel free to drop names.  What cables have you compared that didn't sound different?   I've just gotta know.  I'm floored every time I see a post or response in which cables are called snake oil or something comparable.  Please enlighten me......Thanks.
lcherepkai
Glad to see all the positive responses.  I feel the same as what I've read here but I posted this to offer a forum to speak out against the "supposed" benefits of upgrading cables.  Seems like in every post I've read lately someone has to chime in that cables don't make a difference, outlets don't make a difference, fuses.....   Please, would any of you naysayers offer your insights as to why you believe so.  Speak up!   Your unwelcome comments compromise many an otherwise interesting and helpful post asking for genuine advice.
Geez, I don't even hear the differences with speakers!, for get about cables!

Got my all in one Motorola High Fi TT console and it sounds wonderful.  Happy Listening.


I hear differences, but don't spend on wires more than $50/m/pair. My good knowledge of math blocks me from taking silly decision to spend more on just wires.
czarivey
I hear differences, but don’t spend on wires more than $50/m/pair. My good knowledge of math blocks me from taking silly decision to spend more on just wires.
Discussions of cables often omit two of the most important factors, imo, and those are the quality of the connectors and the quality of the terminations. In my experience, good connectors alone cost more than $50 for a set of four.
The point about where to spend on audio is interesting.

Most of us have limited budgets for these things, so what has the biggest ROI when spending for audio improvements? It is sometimes said the top 3 things affecting sound quality are: source material, speakers, and room. Suppose you have great source material, excellent speakers and an appropriately treated room. Where should money go next for best ROI? My choice (in order) was:
- AVR / processor + amp with whatever room correction software it brings to the party.
- Source electronics (blue ray players, streamers, even TVs if they use the audio return channel)
- Cables

While cables came in last place, it doesn't mean they aren't important. But for me, they don't "move the needle" as much as other audio investments, and they got a lot less of the budget.