Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas

Paul, that's hysterical.

Haven't received my sample of the cleaning fluid yet. Hope I'm still on the list to get some. Best, Dave Pogue

Hi, Paul. Just received it, and realized that all my records (anything I care to listen to, at least) are pretty darn clean already. Need to hit a used record store to pick up some candidates, I'll report back. Thanks, Dave

Paul, when are you going to have a website for these products? I've been impressing the heck out of friends by doing before-and-after comparos. Dave

Well, this testing process is turning out to be harder than I expected. I bought some used records this afternoon, tried to get a handle on the "before" and then listened to the "after." Yes, a nice improvement, but not one I swear I could pick up in an A/B test. But a friend has another copy of one of the discs and this weekend we'll see if we can hear a difference between your products and whatever he uses with his Nitty Gritty/Record Doctor RCM (same model as mine).

One of the problems is that I may be too stingy with your stuff -- want it to last, and there's not a lot to play with. Another "problem" is that my own cleaning regime works very well -- Harry Weisfeld's formula (not the VPI concentrate, which I don't like at all) plus a distilled water rinse. More later, Dave.

Yes, Paul, I'd be happy to pay you for the larger quantity, too, and thanks for offering. Dave

First, many thanks, Paul, for sending the second, larger samples.

I figured I could now afford to "waste" a little and went to my stack of unplayable-but-can't-bear-to-throw-them-out-discs and found a Herbie Mann album with arrangements by Oliver Nelson ("Latin Mann - Afro to Bossa to Blues"). It's a two-eye Columbia that had clearly led a hard life before winding up at Goodwill.

Long story short, it's not only playable but sounds sensational. Sure, some of the surface noise and clicks are still there, but they don't interfere with my enjoyment -- it's left my purgatory stack for good. And if you don't look too closely (especially at all those marks around the spindle), you'd almost think it was new -- very shiny indeed.

Earlier I had used your fluids to clean a REALLY old copy of Reiner's performance of Pictures at an Exhibition (Italian RCA label, mfg. in Germany!). As I noted on some posts re the new SACD version, this LP definitely waxed (sorry) the SACD. Also, while our comparison tests of two copies of the same records were less dramatic, tho still in favor of your stuff, these were all near-mint to begin with and treated first with "conventional" RC fluids.

Following comments here, I left the #1 fluid on the Herbie Mann disc for well over a minute. I've been using Last brushes for this exercise and wet them down first with distilled water, primarily to "ration" your fluids, though I think it's a good idea regardless.

I think these fluids have DEFINITE sales potential. Just received the new KAB catalog -- you might send Kevin Barrett a sample (www.kabusa.com).

Great stuff. Thanks again, Paul.

After doing about a dozen discs, the Last brushes I'm using show absolutely no discoloration. Better yet, my styli (two vinyl setups) stay clean as a whistle.

Put me down for a gallon, too, Paul. This stuff is dynamite. Although it's a bit depressing to look at 3,000+ Lps and think what's ahead :-)

Okay, let's cut to the chase. When will it be available? I've started rationing again :-)

Dave

My order arrived just as I was running out of the samples. Many thanks, Paul. Much cleaning (and better sound) ahead.