Solid State vs. Tubes - What if Transistors came first?


What do you guys think?

If transistors came first, and then decades later tubes were invented, would we have any tube amps we would call high end?

Wouldn’t they all fail to reach the height of performance and transparency set by transistor amps?

Best,

E

P.S. I love Conrad Johnson. I'm just wondering how  much of our arguments have to do with timing. 
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Showing 9 responses by glupson

dave_b,

After reading all the links above and having interacted with geoffkait on too many occasions, I developed the feeling that he has changed over time. I am not saying it is for strikingly better, but more  mellow.
dave_b,

"Buying it" was about buying his stuff. He is not stealing money if nobody is buying it. Do you really think anybody is buying it?
geoffkait,

You are the number one. At some point in history, rest of us will get it.
"If you pick the correct....ingredients...…..you’ll be happy with the outcome."
rodman99999,

As you mentioned, silicon just does not give that right feeling. It gives that artificial impression. Cold and technical. Not warm and natural while slightly, but pleasantly, imperfect. The inconvenience is that silicon can last longer while other vacuum(ing) devices degrade quickly and are better replaced as soon as any deterioration is noticed. And that becomes expensive in the long run.


In other words, tubes may make you feel better while transistors will last longer and give you enough satisfaction for longer time. That is what I meant.
geoffkait,

"Glubson, your statement is definitely true, and carefully worded..."
You have not been giving me enough credit. All my statements are like that.

I like peaches. Eggplant only when it is unrecognizable. Babaganoush and similar.





"I am sorry, I don't want third world made parts in my equipment."
You are in trouble. Short of Red Bull, everything else may be produced in some "Third World" country.
In my amplifier, many things could be not Western although I have no way of telling. It does say "Made in Japan" on it so my quick guess would be that at least some parts are from there making them Eastern. Not exactly "Third World" country, but when you mentioned "Western".

My comment about "third world made parts" was more along the lines of "it is hard to know where things are coming from these days and why does it matter anyway". Again, short of Red Bull, although who knows where they get sugar from. Probably not from Switzerland or Japan.
"Apparently Deforest had even less luck with the ladies, married four times..."
"The one who marries for the second time did not deserve to get divorced the first time."-My father, frequently.


He never mentioned about four times.
sfcfran,

My little question was really just asking what someone else’s thoughts would be on a subject that I come across quite often while reading "press". "The best in its price range", you know the drill. I used to wonder why buy anything else then. Then I concluded, shorter but in the same vein, what you said. Pass may be great, best ever for anywhere close to that money, but some would, just as you said, not care as it is unsightly, too heavy, too hot, too big for the room, whatever else. Which brings me to another point that I sometimes try to mention here and then it feels like blasphemy of sorts. Some things are bought, or not bought, because of the way they look. To align it with this thread, tubes are more inconvenient even if you do not need to change them ever. I would dread trying to get the dust off of them but someone may not care and may enjoy it.