Some tables have soul and some not

Dear Thuchan, 'foreign and national debt is a matter of perspective'? This must be some new economic theory. Ie it seems to allow an easy way out: change the perspective.
However if you compare the European central bank with the American you should pay more attention to the printing (money) press. As a German you are of course aware about the German fear for the inflation. So no European bonds nor
printing press will be allowed by the Germans. If I am correct that is. Glad to 'see' you back btw.

Kind regards,

Nandric:

I would have sworn you were french. You 'sound' french. I just looked it up and you are dutch. A lot of big talk from a person from such a small and insignificate country. One question, what was the dutch contribution to CERN? I know all of this has nothing to do with audio, or has any place on a audiophile web site, but there is no way I will let a worm like you put down the country and the men and women that made such a sacrifice on your behalf. Of course, these days everyone is an 'America Basher' Weren't many like you around in Holland in 1940-45. I think the germans did a much better job of handling you people. We should have left it to them. BTW, currently there are quite a few of your countrymen in my area. Training at the local Military post. You can always recognize them. They all wear hair-nets and they wear orange socks. No wonder the Red Army ran back to Russia.

"As you know military is one of my hobbies (now passive, on history and consulting only). I just learned that the US forces withdraw about 15000 people from Europe due to cost reasons most properly. And I think they are right. They need to reduce expenses as the European armies too. But you have seen what this means when the Russian forces went back to their barracks in Russia 1990. The Russian government had to create new jobs and opportunities for soldiers and military civil personal. This is quite a challenge doing so.
So maybe our friend has found a new job here :-) now kicking our ass..."

Thuchan:
You sound rather stupid for a german. The US Army is coming out of germany because the Red Army went back to Russia. We should have all left decades ago. Be assured, the rest of Europe wanted us there, not to defend against the Soviets, but to keep the german army in germany. :) You might want to explain that to your side kick in holland. Most of the troops that fought in the first gulf war came out of germany, US 7th Corps, and they never went back, and the American economy chugged along just fine. In fact it boomed. For which army do you consult? Give my best to all the fine folks in Nurnberg.

Νο one in Europe is willing to accuse the people of US for anything as we boil in the same boat with no exceptions.
Somehow I feel it comes the time for us all to hold back and ask about whats in Rockefeller's & Rothschild's mind. The army, the currency, the religion, the alimentarius codex, even the education program and yet the support system for family ties in the West world are under tight supervision from tools like Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan and alien subhuman puppets in the Bilderberg Group who they don't give a shit about humanity. So lets have a doubt for what they had in their minds when they put "In God We Trust" on the USD. The crisis of our times is artificial and was created with in purpose to measure the strength of human's resistance preparing the battle field for ... lets just say : A new start.
Those trainees Dutches were most probably destined for Greece. So, please lets stop expose our anger to our forum mates and lets find some courage instead to support our values for human dignity for days to come.

Dear Rok2id, Please "put a sock in it". You are quite right on only one thing: your political and religious opinions are way inappropriate on this thread, not to say also regrettable in many ways. If you keep up in this vein, we might find out just how crazy and unpleasant some of us are. But in particular I want to ask you whether you really believe that it is a fault of the Dutch that they live in a "small" and therefore militarily powerless country? Do you also think that you and I can take some kind of credit for the accident of our having been born in this large and powerful country? If so, you are a fool. (I served in the military, too, so don't go there, please.)

To Nandric and Thuchan, I apologize. You have a right to your present political opinions regardless of anything that may have happened 60 years ago, when none of us was involved. Further, there is not a country on earth that does not bear very visible ideological warts, new and old, political and economic.