Speakers "Disappearing"


I have read a lot about speakers "disappearing" so that one can't tell from where the sound is emanating. But, what about all the stereo tunes where the recordiing engineer intentionally pans the music to come from one side or the other? Can the speakers be made to "disappear" in that situation? Or, is it just the nature of the particular recording?
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Milpai makes it sound far harder than it really is. I just plunk mine down roughly where the need to be and get them within an inch or so of being equal from the wall. The room isn't at all symmetrical so I don't bother with side wall measurements. That gets me great depth and width with a tad bit more spacial flare to the right that you barely notice. If you're trying to position speakers to .125 inches, they simply don't have any ability to image. 
The two biggest factors in whether a speaker images well are how inert the cabinet is and the space around it. I've seen enough of these threads around begging this question and they tend to get every imaginable reply EXCEPT "your speakers simply don't image that well". And that's ok. Some people just want immaculate tone at any cost, including imaging. As long as mine are basically in front of me at roughly equal distances, they disappear. Finer adjustment refines the effect a bit, but it's just what they do. If that's a high priority, just get speakers that do it. 
Big planers do a good job, but I'm not completely sold on that approach having used large dipoles AMTs. The sound is certainly spacious and less localized, but big radiating surfaces have odd artifacts and I feel that the reflected sound can lend some blurring to detail. I'm not sure their less sensitive to placement. 

When I think of an excellent imaging speaker I think of exactly what I'm hearing right now with my Focals. NOTHING seems to come from the actual speakers unless the sound is very forward and in one channel. The sound stage is distinctly behind the speakers and generally extends back for yards. Objects are clearly positioned forward and back, top to bottom, and side to side beyond the boundary of the speakers. These things aren't positioned according to some hocus-pocus formula. They're within 3/4 of an inch the same distance from the front wall. I've never even measured the side walls. And I toe them by eye, kicking the right one out ever so slightly more. I don't know why, but it cures a slight wandering in the midrange. The treatment to the walls and ceiling has done a LOT more than a few inches of positioning ever has for imaging. You NEED to keep sound from rattling around the room like marbles in a can. That jazz destroys imaging. The room should be distinctly more dead to echo than other rooms in your home. Not totally dead, but clapping shouldn't yield defined slap-back. 
@prof 

That's not a horrible approach as long as you can make sure the resonance is of a high quality factor. 
That's why I use lights and lasers in my room. It distracts from the presence of the room.