Tekton Double Impacts

@grannyring 

Great post by a great person. Thumbs Up!

@jayctoy

I use the WE 10ga cables with my Electrons. If I didn’t have that cable in my arsenal I would be returning the Electrons.

I do agree that from my experience the Cerious Tech cables would be a great match with the Tektons.

@sbayne

I felt the other speaker cables I had at my disposal did not gel well with everything in my system. I was experiencing way too much upper midrange and high frequencies with the Electrons installed. My old speakers (Eminent Technology) had a more laidback presentation. When adding the WE cables, I felt like I added a warm tube. It pushed back the soundstage to midhall and eliminated the nasties that were making my ears miserable (I have tinnitus). I am sure other cables like the Cerious Tech would work great as well. I am in the camp that believes cables do influence the sound. Some don’t. No debates :)

I wasn’t about to buy more cables to figure out how to make the Electrons work in my room, so I was lucky to have the WE cables available. Yes it came down to a wire. A $60 wire lol

Associated Equiptment
Amp: Lyndorf TDAI 2170
Source: Simaudio 260d Tranport
Digital Cable: High Fidelity Reveal
Power Cords : CPT 150 and 300
Power Conditioner: High Fidelity Cable MC6

I also wanted to take the time to thank the great posters here that have helped assist me in making my system sound the way it does presently. You know who you are.

-Peace

He's a Professional Reviewer...leave him alone :)

@facten

Its very easy, you buy a percentage gauge meter, record the sound and it calculates a percentage. Not rocket science dude. :P

I think Home Depot has a End of Summer Sale on some grills if Tekton cant provide them. :P

@grannyring

Are you getting rid of the NOS Dayton Tweeter Cap as well?

Double Impact owners I need your opinion on bass performance.
I want to know if your satisfied with bass resolution and texture? Can you pick up bass guitar notes easily or are they on the soft side? Either acoustic bass of electric. Do any of you listen to Jaco, Geddy, Jack Bruce, John Entwhistle, Ron Carter etc? Thanks

@greg22lz

The Police "Spirits in the Material World"
Yes "Owner of a Lonely Heart" "Roundabout"
Rush "Limelight"
Cream "White Room" "Badge"

@greg22lz 

While these are not Diana Krall quality recordings, you should have a good sense of bass guitar notes and texture being heard in the mix on these tracks. At least I know I heard them very clearly on my old speakers.

@evolvist

My speakers are set using the provided spikes into Herbie Hush Puckies.
I agree about the room correction. I seem to have enough bass in general. Was just curious if DI owners have bass with resolution? You need upper to mid bass otherwise its not going to be easy to follow complex passages. Most posters seem to comment on how Dynamic the bass is or isn’t.

Another Track :
Paul Simon’s "You can call me Al"
Genesis "No reply at all"

@greg22lz

The bell sound coming from the right channel? Yes. Glad to hear the bass is working for you. I was just curious what other owners thought. Enjoy

@grannyring

I bet they sound much better than the SE’s :)

I would like to note that those with the Lyngdorf 2170 try a 90% Romm Perfect reading instead of a 99 or 100%. In my room it was taking a bit too much bass away so with 90% I have more lower mids and bass. Thanks evolvist for the suggestion.

I guess it makes sense that the better the speaker, the less correction it needs. And the worse the speaker, the more of a change you’ll notice.

Not sure I agree with that. I think it depends on the design of the speaker. I had Dipoles and they actually were not designed to need a lot of room correction. My Electrons required much more room correction. Was the dipole speaker better than the Tekton? Not to me.

@tektondesign 

" We're also now producing the wide-polar response version that sounds fantastic."

Can you elaborate on this please?

@ozzy

Just a guess, but since it’s November it is only going to get worse as you get deeper into the month. Good Luck and my the schwartz be with you :)

The only issue I have with Teajay’s statement is, just because I like a D Class amp I won’t be interested in the amps listed below. 

Maybe teajay hasn't read some of the posts from tube admirer's that love the Lyngdorf enough?. I know I have heard Solid State/Tube amps that sound much more mechanical and less involving compared to the Lyngdorf

@teajay 

I personally have not read any posts in regards to you trying the Lyngdorf or any D Class amp with the Double Impact speakers. Can you lead me to that post or page? I am just curious as I don't have the luxury of experiencing as many amps as you. Thanks

@jcarcopo 

Just like the Double Impacts the Lyngdorf is not going to appeal to everyone. Heck I bought mine used from a Reviewer that used it with the Pendragons. He sold it because he thought it sounded harsh at high volumes. I am glad he did :)

@lpretiring

I’ll PM you sir and no it wasn't TJ.

At $16,000 the Devialet D-Premier should sound better than a amp at $4,000 -5k
Thanks for your input James.

@jcarcopo 

I like it! Very cool, I bet they will sound great.

The darker finishes for Tekton look so much better glossy.

Cliff not be rude. But questions like this can EASILY be found by just typing in Google Search. 

"tekton double impacts picture" in google search. Picture of the ports!

OMG My Grills Shipped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I definitely want to know what that resistor mod thing is about. But then again it’s NO mystery that all DI’s are not built the same. Just read Grannyrings later posts.

Got a question for Tekton Speaker Owners with Grills. I just received my grills for my Electrons. The grills are well built. However, they don’t seem like they fit the shape of the speaker cabinet. The corners of the grills are not flush with the corners of the speaker cabinet. The Speakers Cabinets have a rounded corner yet the Grills have a sharp corner, so the grill corners are sticking out a bit. Is this what you all have as well? Thanks

@kristofa

You can also try raising the back of the speakers with the adjustable feet so the tweeter array points down a bit towards you.

The tweeter height was an issue for me and was one of the reasons why I chose the Electrons over the DI's.

I much prefer Aurios Bearings under my Tektons compared to the supplied spikes and Herbie Hush Puckies I tried. The spikes accentuated the highs where the bearings actually relaxed the highs back and tighten the bass more. I would try the Gaia bearings if funds allow.

@greyhound
You need to edit that link it won’t work

@craigl59

Just to note the Aurios are not made anymore, but they do show up on the used market (that is how I acquired mine). You would need the Aurio Pro or Pro Max. 3 per speaker. Otherwise the Symposium Rollerblocks Jr or HDSE supposedly are just as good. You can contact Symposium direct for a solution that would be cheaper than the GAIA feet.

@nitrobob

Thanks for your honest and interesting write up on the Tektons. I don’t think you rubbed anyone the wrong way at all. You seemed like you tried everything you had at your disposal. For me though I had to make a decent amount of changes in my system to get what I wanted from the Tektons. Some people (grannyring) had to modify the speakers. Some just placed them in the room and magic!

Have you thought about trying Model 3a signature Vandersteen speakers? Not the most efficient but they have 10" woofers. When I heard them I thought they had a warm natural character, but the highs had nice amount of detail. Not only that, but they have tweeter and mid controls on them, to fine tune them. There is a fine line with warm and super crisp highs though, so keep that in mind. You can’t really have both...sorta a middle ground. At least that is from my experience. Anyways Vandersteen came to mind, I am sure others might have other examples for you to try.

Best of luck and thanks.

I only listen at 55-70 db, I feel like such a wimp lol. I do have a serious reason for listening at those levels. I developed tinnitus from playing drums for many years so its just not possible to listen louder for me. My ears are very sensitive. More power to people with ironclad ears.

Similar to the Gaia footers, I recently installed 3 Aurio Pros under each of my Electrons and it really opened up the sound. I feel the detail retrieval ,soundstage width/depth and bass articulation was impacted the most. Amazing tweak for someone that doesn’t want to replace drivers, caps or wires.

I would imagine the Gaia 2’s would work great with the regular DI’s? They support up to 120lbs.. The DI’s weigh only 106 lbs. Now the SE’s maybe are a different story as they weigh 120lbs.

For cheaper alternative to the Gaia’s at only $200, a set of 3 Symposium Rollerblock Jr’s. The only issue with those is you don’t want to bump into your speakers, they might slide off the Rollerblocks and fall O.O So if you have kids or curious animals...maybe not a good choice. You want 3 bearing devices so you can create an equal triangle underneath the speakers. Once installed your speakers will basically float. Decoupling speakers is in my opinion something that should not be ignored. The results will be very obvious and very positive IMHO.

As Mac mentioned they drain vibrations which would allow the components inside and outside the speaker cabinet to perform at a much higher potential. So in a sense it would improve the crossover.

If your a soundstage and imaging fan, then decoupling devices are a must IMHO. I have them pretty much throughout my system.

@corelli

Seems like with the devices your using might just be changing the resonant signature of your cabinet with the rubber devices. The best vibration draining systems I have have used are ball bearing isolation devices under my components i.e. Symposium Roller Blocks, Aurios, isoacoustics Gaia’s etc.

If your interested in DIY route. You might want to search for "DIY Roller Blocks" or "Barry Diament hip joints"

@mac48025

You should try the Roller Block Jr’s with and without the tops (carbine balls touching the component). I heard that in some cases they sound better without the tops. Supposedly you get more jiggle action. Which would equate to less dampening without the tops. If you put under wood then I would stick with the tops on or get something like a marble tile to put between the tungsten ball and the wood.

The other things is, you might be able to expand on your investment if you use 1 side of the RBjr’s. If so, you can buy 3 additional tungsten carbine balls and use it on another component.

https://img.usaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1008207-symposium-rollerblock-jr-hdse.jpg

@bliptrip

I agree 100%

@kristofa
I have grills and experience no flakes on my speakers and on my head :)
I have the copper cardas binding posts...they are not shiny.

When are the Double Impact BE's going to be released? Anyone

@thompsontechs

I have the WE cables Grannyring is referring to. Its hooked to the 2170 and the Tekton Electrons. I will tell you that it is the warmest, most natural system I have put together. You just need to be patient. Lots of burn in time. Over 200 hours in my experience. If you have the right quality ingredients surrounding the 2170 and the Tektons, it can be a system that will be very engaging to listen to for many hours at a time.

@treebeard1

Supposedly the change is tied to the SN#. You need to contact Tekton with the SN# and they will tell you.

Here’s a video summary on the resistor change
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IMgA8O8IQ

Glad my Electrons don't need that resistor. I would hate to try installing that.

@grannyring

Well just got off the phone with Eric (who was extremely pissy and rude I might add lol) and he explained that the DI’s are the only one’s that need the change. It is only for people with DI’s in smaller rooms. Apparently people are calling and bugging him about this (oh well too bad). I suggested to him maybe posting this on his blog, but he said, he doesn’t have the time.

That’s why I posted the video earlier to help with the questions about it in this thread.
Eric posted on that youtube channel to have people call with the serial numbers. 

"Eric Alexander1 week ago
Call us directly with your DI serial numbers in hand. "

@david_ten

I think your suggestion is great based on grannyrings very helpful and interesting posts. I think I understand where you are coming from, that his posts might get lost in the shuffle in this thread, which is sad. Talks about bicycles and coffee makers should follow as well lol.

@jcarcopo 
Why didn't you pursue the Lyngdorf 3400 again? I agree with Charles. Benchmark has always been overly detailed, dry and brittle.

@jcarcopo

I use the 2170 with my Electrons and feel it works great. In my opinion as great as the Tekton Electrons speakers are, I feel the 2170 is the most important part to my system.

Well the incredible reviews and high praise from fellow audiogon members has weakened me so. I just bought a pair of Electrons (mid tower version of DI) Soft White/Grills and Upgraded Parts. I hope they aren't too aggressive in the mids and highs. I will have them about 2 feet from the back wall, playing at lower volumes (60-65db) with a sub. I have a Primaluna Dialogue Premium to power them. Wish me luck! I estimate delivery to be 3-4 weeks. Will report back with impressions. Thanks guys and gals $$$$ :o

Well I would imagine that the 5 year warranty covers crumbling dust caps? I mean this is kinda pathetic to be honest lol. More power to you if you can just put the grills on your speaker and be ok with it. If a dust cap on my speaker that I just ordered 2 days ago even slightly showed a hint it was dented, the speaker would be going back immediately.