The best digital IC, period.


I've spent a great deal of time, too much really, to find the best IC between my transport to my DAC. After listening to six cables from some big names and big $$ as well as some not so well names for small $$. The winner came out to be a HAVE/CANARE $25 IC. With this cable there is no eye candy at all, ZED, but it's combination of GEPCO International, VSD2001 high definition 75ohm serial series digital coax, and CANARE true 75ohm RCA terminations, simply killed all of the esoteric cables with a few others coming in very very close, but the HAVE/CANARE $25, 3' was just beyond belief. Now I know that people feel strongly to use at least 1.5M in length for a DIC, but with this company I tried cables at length of 12" to 1.5M, i tried them all and the best of the buch was their standard 3' cable, defying the math. Hey, for 25$?
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By the way, GLo, are you a dealer? You sound like a dealer to me. Would you care to make a disclosure?
Antigrunge, I note that the title of this thread is "The best digital IC, period."
Musicxyz, I noticed HiDiamond does not have an AES/EBU digital cable. Are you using their digital cable? If so, how does it sound?
Musicxyz, I am running an AES/EBU digital cable at the moment. Would you say that the HiDiamond digital (which is not available in AES/EBU) is better sounding than even the best XLR digitals you have tested?
Musicxyz, since Audiogon makes it difficult to PM at the moment I would appreciate hearing your opinion about the difference between the HiDiamond D7 and D8 speaker cables.
Glory, you may have misunderstood. I was not shooting at or shooting down anyone. I was simply asking about the difference between the HiDiamond D7 and D8 speaker cables.
I have ordered HiDiamond cables from Robert Neill of Worldwide Wholesale. I will take delivery next month. I have had absolutely no problem at all with him. In fact, he has been most helpful all the way through this transaction and has been more than willing to answer questions. I consider his customer service excellent.
Ps68,
I will be glad to report my experience with HiDiamond cables once I have had a chance to listen to them in my system.

I believe there are two reasons why HiDiamond has such a low profile in North America. The first is that they do not advertise. The second is that they are an Italian maker. There are many excellent foreign makers who have been unknown until they became famous. AMR from the UK was completely unknown until they recently started producing world-class components. Hegel from Norway make products that are at the top of their price-point class. Perhaps HiDiamond will become well-known as a maker of high quality cables. This remains to be seen -- and heard.

I am not associated with the group Musicxyz is involved with. I have only had a handful of cables in my system over the years, in comparison with the hundreds of cables they have auditioned. My experience will have to be taken in this context. But I did train as a concert pianist and my hearing is excellent. So this should be helpful.

Over the past 6 years I have used cables from the following companies: Mogami, Goertz, Supra, Gabriel Gold, Cardas, ASI Liveline, Bybee and Synergistic Research.
Ghostinmachine,
Thank you for your kind remarks. I have not tried Acoustic Zen cables -- yet. I note your positive observations about them in your system.

I am using ASI Liveline power cords in series with Bybee Ultra and ASI Liveline power cords in series with Synergistic Research. I have found that using these cables in series is superior to using the cords individually. When the configuration is right the results are stunning. When the configuration is reversed the results are awful. Which goes to show me that cabling is a very tricky business.
Horchai,

I piggy-back my XLR cables. No adapters necessary. I use a burn-in adapter from VH Audio for running the power cords in series.
I have had the HiDiamond XLR 2 interconnects in my system for 2 days. They are simply stunning. I have never heard any other interconnects that do what the HiDiamonds do to bring the emotion and aliveness into my system -- or any other system I have ever auditioned over the years. Words cannot do justice to these interconnects -- right out of the box without break-in.

Please note I am not in the audio business and have no association with any audio company -- other than being a customer.
I have had the HiDiamond XLR 2 interconnects in my system for 2 days. They are simply stunning. I have never heard any other interconnects that do what the HiDiamonds do to bring the emotion and aliveness into my system -- or any other system I have ever auditioned over the years. Words cannot do justice to these interconnects -- right out of the box without break-in.

Please note I am not in the audio business and have no association with any audio company -- other than being a customer.
GLo,
Because of your confrontational attitude. Making full disclosure is not a gig. It is an important matter on Audiogon. If a forum member has an agenda this should be disclosed. Are you sure you have no connection at all with the audio business?
GLo,
Your feedback shows you sell an awful lot of cables. Are you sure you're not in the cable business?
GLo,
As I said earlier, I am too old to be phobic. But not too old to be suspicious. Especially with what sounds like aggressive shill talk.
Essentialaudio,
I don't believe everything I read. I have learned how to read between the lines. This is an important lesson in life.
Essentialaudio,
Hide behind my keyboard? That's a good one. A customer hiding behind his keyboard. You have an obvious ax to grind. If there are posts that should be suspect it is obviously dealer posts. And the shills they bring into the picture who remain as silent partners. You only demean yourself by trying to cast aspersions on customers. Thank you for allowing this discussion, Audiogon.
Essentialaudio,
You may have worked hard to earn your reputation but I am not at all impressed with some of your posts.
GLo,
I have never been in the audio business and have no financial links to anyone in the audio business. I am a happy customer. That's it. If you are not happy about my enthusiasm that is not my problem.

Instead of using the tone you have just used in your post are you prepared to make a straightforward denial as I have just done?
GLo,
That's a great name. Sabby -- I like it !! I may change my Audiogon ID. Sabby -- I like it !! Thanks GLo.
Hey GLo,
Do you remember Van Morrison -- G-L-O-R-I-A -- have you ever thought of changing your ID to Gloria?
Essentialaudio,
Thanks. I've been told before that I'm a riot. I'm glad this meets with your approval. I'll be here 24/7. No cover charge.
Gloria,
William Shakespeare made a very insightful observation in Hamlet:

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

You and Essentialaudio are revealing more than you realize. Not everyone who reads these forums is as naive as you would wish.
I hope that this post will be allowed in light of the fact that false statements have been made about me on this thread that question my honesty and integrity.

Regarding the false statement by a poster on this thread that I am a shill, here is a recent denial in a post from Worldwidewholesales on the thread entitled Great Cables ... That Get Little Attention.

"04-30-12: Worldwidewholesales
Glory and Essentialaudio/Brian Walsh worldwide sales rep for Teo (Liquid Cables).

I have stood back for several weeks and listened to you trash talk my company and my clients but enough is enough. Sabai is a client of mine and he has made several purchases of different models of HiDiamond cables. Sabai does not and has never worked in any way, shape or forum for Worldwide Wholesales or me personally and in fact doesn’t even live in Canada. There is no point to twist words or play games. I have never been on this forum under any name except Worldwide Wholesales and my clients are my clients; I prefer clients versus customers. It appears that for some reason you may have a problem with people saying “they enjoy HiDiamond cables “if this is the case than please let us all know why?
Worldwidewholesales"

I introduced this topic. In my introduction I stated the following:
"Please note I am not in the audio business and have no association with any audio company -- other than being a customer."

The agenda behind the negative posts on this thread is obviously to impugn my observations about HiDiamond cables that I find absolutely stunning. The emotionally-charged tone of these posts indicates to me that there is a hidden agenda lurking under the surface and that a sensitive nerve has been touched. In the past, we have seen threads unravel, mired in the quicksand of insults and false accusations. I will once again take Ted Denney's advice (the lead designer of Synergistic Research) and ignore disrespectful, inflammatory and false statements that stray from the topic.

In the past, I have written enthusiastically about products from the following companies on these forums: Synergistic Research, EMM, Bybee, ASI Liveline, Merlin and AMR. I find it worthy of note that I was never accused of anything other than enthusiasm when I submitted those posts. I hope this thread will return to a discussion of the topic.

I will be receiving the HiDiamond Carbon 2 digital cable next week. I will post my initial observations of it at that time.