Whatever, georgelofi.
The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....
New SR BLUE fuse thread ...
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...
Overall impressions:
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
Frank
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Since when do you establish the rules, George? You make this up as you go along. First you claim it has to be "scientific" and then it's pointed out to you that something empirically observed is scientific. Any disproving is up to the naysayer, which you refuse to do. Now you say SR has to join your fracas of a forum or it's not legit. When you run out of conditions and the fuses always sound better, what will you do? All the best, Nonoise |
Their backers comments speak for themselves, like with all products that people are happy with. What need does SR have that they must rely and promote what others say? This is really quite a stretch, even for you. I would say you can do better, but you seem to be running out of negative options to toss around. All the best, Nonoise |
po·et·ic li·censenounHow is discussing the dangers of substituting a fast blow fuse for a slow blow fuse poetic license, unless you're insinuating there's danger to be had when sticking with the correct fuse rating but using a better fuse? Is that the license (effect) you're taking? All the best, Nonoise |
I’ll put it up again, maybe the tree lopers have been in.I couldn't find anything in the above to indicate your implications on post removals and indiscriminate treatment. 🤔 It seemed to be solely on using the wrong type fuses. All the best, Nonoise |
Who implicated post removals, wow, you’ve have got a bad case of the Heebie-jeebies. You did: You certainly do have a point. That said, I suspect you know very well that if what I’m suggesting were the case (i.e. that some reasonable degree of poetic license were allowed), many of my prior posts would not have been removed.George, you have to remember what you say and not make it up as you go along.👍 We can't read between the lines when what's between the lines are in your head. All the best, Nonoise |
The only point of contention with your statement is the refusal of those who say a fuse can not affect performance based on a belief, rather than an experience. That, is a great example of expectation bias: I will not hear an improvement so why bother trying? As opposed to "lets see what happens here when I change this...", which is more of a scientific approach. Just like with cables, I went through 3 different brands of fuses before I came upon one that sounded best in my system and to my tastes. All the best, Nonoise |
This is like someone coming upon the scene of an accident, moments after it happened. They look around, size up the scene and come to a conclusion that discounts what the persons in the accident reported. The victims even have a dash cam video of what happened but the late comer refuses to look at it, citing his unfailing ability to backward engineer the event because, a higher level of abstraction. All the best, Nonoise |
It’s refreshing to wake up after a good night’s sleep and see the same flies in the ointment. What Ted Denny said: NO OBJECTIVE CRITERIA OR TEST THAT EXISTS TODAY THAT CONCLUSIVELY PROVES ANY PRODUCT TO BE BETTER THAN ANY OTHER.is not a repudiation of his product and even the ones with half a brain here know that, yet they immediately jump on it as such. It’s like after having your head buried in the sand for so long, they stand up, bend over backwards, and reinsert their heads in the sand, proclaiming, "I now have a new point to argue with." Geoff has been saying, in a different way, that there’s no way to validate a A/B/X test as there’s too many variables inherent in the test (which is another way to state Ted Denny's statement) and like I’ve always said, it’s a parlor trick. And something has to be said about false equivalency. One side is trolling as best they can while the other can only point to the obvious remedy: try the fuse for yourself. It appeares to be just a tactic to get the thread shut down. And one more thing: there’s nothing in the book that states that a fuse can not effect the sound of one’s system. There’s nothing in "electronic engineering" (as one here loves to say) that says the same. There are no "engineering laws" that say that either. It’s merely the understanding of those with an appreciation and understanding of those rules and laws who surmise, for themselves, that it can not be. They’re just guessing. No body has ever bothered to consider it before someone discovered that a fuse can be of benefit. There’s no way in hell that something which is a part of design can not impart a sonic signature of it’s own, since the design can not work without it’s presence. It’s function is small but that doesn’t mean it’s sonic impact isn’t. Just because no one thought enough to give due consideration to something for a long time doesn’t mean that it’s some kind of electronic engineering law. All the best, Nonoise |
The only thing anyone can count on is the desire here to get others to buy the fuses.Silly on it’s face. If your take on what I said was that listening is unreliable, then you’re just having a great time trolling. Try adding some emojis at the end of such a statement, to give it relevance. 🤪 All the best, Nonoise |
@jafreeman , I experienced a similar result with my fuses: having to turn the volume down. The pressure seemed to be too much of a good thing. One thing I hope you avoid (which I didn't) is the questioning of your state of mind. As to your thoughts on maybe returning to 'normal' levels after a time, that was my experience. About a week ago I found myself turning the volume back up to where I used to have it on most recordings. It's been a few months since I swapped fuses so that may give you an idea of how long it may take. YMMV. All the best, Nonoise |
@jkuc - Padis fuses have a reputation of bright sounding. Is the Blue as "bright " as Padis? Personally, I don't like bright sounding systems, not natural, kind of sterile.I've only tried two types of fuses-the HiFi Tuning Silver Star and the PADIS and to my ears, the PADIS are not at all bright sounding. They sound very even handed to my ears. The HiFi fuses had an emphasis on the leading edge, giving them a lively presentation, but at the expense with a slight lessening of everything else. If I hadn't tried the PADIS, I'd be happy with the HiFi fuses. For about $30, the PADIS are at least worth a try. All the best, Nonoise |
As I pointed out on (I think) a different post, there are 3 levels of fuses out there with the first two for commercial use. The 1st level is the cheap, standard fuse that varies more than it should concerning it's rating and the next level up are the boutique fuses which melt exactly when they should. If you're device is drawing more current than what it should, maybe you need to take a long, hard look at your component and find out why it's doing what it shouldn't be doing. All the best, Nonoise |
@almarg , yes, it was a rep from The Cable Co. who told me he researched as best he could how and where fuses are made and told me there are basically three types or grades of fuses and the applications used for each. He also went on to say that the lowest grade of fuses can vary in performance despite the specs and the next two levels adhere better to the specs. The mid level fuses, which is what the boutique audio fuses are based on, have been around a long time for use in other, more critical applications. One would think that since this has been known for awhile, the more knowledgeable folk around here who are more versed in this would have said something sooner. Something like, "all those fuses are are rebranded, higher quality fuses that have been used in ...." and the conversation wouldn't have been so heated. In my simple googling of high rupturing fuses and their uses, there are plenty of sites explaining them by highly degreed engineers so there is no mystery to these boutique fuses other than why they charge so much but that is another matter. Hearsay, yes. But I'm of a mind after researching what I could that it all makes sense without any need to strain credulity. That, and what my ears tell me. As for my last paragraph, there was a bit of snark in it. Not all the equipment should be considered faulty or poorly designed but who's to say that some of it isn't? We only have their word to go on, like mine and others who do hear a difference. The statement I made was to make people think before decrying aftermarket fuses. All the best, Nonoise |
Women’s hearing is better than men’s due to evolution. Their hearing has to be outstanding so they could hear when their husbands were driving up the driveway.I believe there's some truth to that. It's the female of the species that protects the home(land) and raises the young. They also do most of the hunting, until we humans started walking upright. Males are for territorial defense and breeding (bragging) rights. I think women have the edge. They just aren't given the chance to prove or use it as much as men do. All the best, Nonoise |
Would you take seriously someone who told you that with a new wiring loom (or whatever) the fuel consumption of your car would suddenly be reduced by half? Would you feel a need to even try?Many years ago with the advent of OBD for cars there were tons of problems that all the experts couldn’t figure out. Turns out that the spark plug wires were acting as an emitter and antenna of sorts, messing with the electronics. No one believed it until some enterprising folk came up with better insulated wires and POOF!, the troubles were lessened. Gas mileage didn’t improve by 50% but it did improve. After that and until they became standard on cars, lots of people went out and bought better cables. All the best, Nonoise |
@oregonpapa , don't give them the satisfaction of a reply. If they were in the same room, they'd be high-fiving themselves right now. Their hunger is insatiable and constant. I've been on the receiving end as well and do my level best to ignore them but sometimes you can't let the dumb stuff pass without a comment. Perservere. All the best, Nonoise |
@uberwaltz, Welcome to the club. I was a firm believer in after market fuses but not of the directional camp. It took about two years for me to simply try the other direction and there was a definite and obvious difference. I told myself that I didn't care what others felt and would not get involved in a pie fight with the naysayers but, I did. Don't do as I did and simply post and reply to those who appreciate what this is all about. Enjoy. All the best, Nonoise |
I was going to wait 'till the weekend to talk about the Brimar fuses but from the Telos site, the fuses are subjected to: This is similar to what they do to the Brimar fuses, which benefit greatly from it. The difference is the Brimars are cryo'd for 72 hours and the Quantum burn is done for 48 hrs. The infrared, I believe, is used on something else. I saw it mentioned on the site previously but couldn't locate in the time needed to write this. All the best, Nonoise |