Vinyl lovers I must be crazy


I have been in the hobby for about 40 years and it seems that I enjoyed my simple system back in the 70's more than my high end system of today. My old system consisted of a receiver (sherwood, marantz) a basic turntable (later upgraded ro a B&O) and various speakers. My current system the cables cost 5 times the entire 70's system and the rest of the gear is top notch. I am not saying the 1970's system was better but I think I enjoyed it much better than today's system. The 70's system was a all vinyl system and my current system I strictly listen to Cd's. Is that the problem listening to CD's? For you vinyl lovers what do you think? For those that made the switch back to playing records are you listening more now? Enjoying your system more? What type of vinyl dollar outlay did it cost to reach vinyl nirvana?

Any feedback would be appreicated. Thanks!
bobheinatz

Showing 4 responses by elizabeth

I am 61 years old, and have been into 'hifi' since a teen.(first system: J.B.Lansing, Fisher, Garrard)
My take on the phenomena of 'the good old days' is one of age. back then, being young, and life was good. What more could one want?
Now, reminiscing, all that gets mushed together, so not just the glory of being young, but whatever was happening gets to be "golden'ified" by association. This seems to be a normal process, and has been going on as long as recorded personal memoirs have been made. Like a first love, compared to the tenth.. Can't help it.
So, for that 'Rose colored memory' I personally salute it, but have enough sense to know it is a romantic fantasy.
My Cd stuff is not as good as my LP sound. By a small margin. I still listen to mainly Cds, because i am really lazy. i can pop 5 disks into the changer and go all day long. When i play Lps, i have to be much more involved. So 90% of my time is CDs anyway.
The Lp sound is slightly cleaner and clearer, definitely more subtle dynamics in Lp playback. I just mostly like to listen to music, so I do not worry too much about CD vs LP.
When I want to listen to stuff i have on LP, then I play LPs.
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On the other hand, When my system has left me not wanting to listen, past experience has shown it is something wrong with the system. I went from a Hafler DH110 preamp, to a Sony digital (first one) that had all sorts of (bells and whistles) stuff it could do. Problem was i stopped listening to music! So after wondering about what was wrong, i got rid of the Sony crap, and bought a Counterpoint Preamp, Loved that
The point being the Sony killed my interest. Without knowing why I just stopped listening, and only in reflection did i realize it was the sterile sound caused by the Sony.
So on that side i would say something in your current system you think is OK, really is crap, and you need to find what it is, and get something that pleases your 'inner ear' Your soul, your heart.
Getting an LP playback setup added to your system might solve the problem momentarily, but if the underlying problem is in the non CD portion of your setup, it is NOT going to solve the real issue, your setup leaves you unsatisfied. If you are lucky, and the only problem was in your CD setup, then you may be very happy to have added vinyl playback.
As for money to spend? $6 grand should be enough to buy a nice TT, with arm installed, and a decent cart, and a Phono pre. $1,000 to $1,600 used TT+arm, $700 to $1000 new cart, and a phono pre used $1,000 to $2,000
All new $6,000.
So you want a dollar amount $6,000 new, $4,500 used with a new cartridge.
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For ANYONE interested in LP playback: It is a FAD!! Everyone thinks "Should I?" Well, telling you straight up: NO! Unless you have a personal need to want to play records. It is going to be awaste of time. The hassles, and rituals of playing Lps get tired really fast!! Unless you have an inner need for them, skip the waste of time it will be, if you don't have need in your gut demanding to play LPs. I went back because i am nuts in general, and had nothing better to burn money on. (AND have a fantastic array of used vinyl locally) I am glad i did, because it add a new source of music for me. But as for if it is worth it... only you can decide. And the idea of a dollar amount to spend to reach what will please you, considering you are not happy with your system now...
Impossible.
This is my take on what you posted.
If i am wrong, i apologize. But IMO you should find out what is leaving you cold about your current system BEFORE jumping into Lps.
Whne You love your CD playback and THEN also want to play LPs.. well great!!!
I like the responses from the Vinyl lovers. I have both CD and vinyl.
I have to run my DAC through a tubed preamp used just as a makeshift tube buffer (and actually have to leave a cheaper powercord ON that VAC Standard, or it lets too much of the crap through...) I use the buffer to ameliorate the HF crap from digital to be able to listen to it. But as it is now, i can. I do listen more to CDs than Lps because i am really, really lazy. Since i listen at least 10 hours or more every single day, I hope the Vinyl lovers will forgive me. My vinyl setup IS better than my CD, but I just use what is easier.
So I have 6,000 LPs two TTs, and only 3,000 CDs (with tons of both formats for many albums)
Maybe I am not really an audiophile?
(no, I AM an audiophile, just a really LAZY one!)
Sorry, I wear a hair shirt to atone for my wayward ways....
Anyway i have a great selection of used Lps in my area. I can go to four good used places and find Lps I want in the $1 to $8 range anytime. With the good places, i do not even have to bother with the less than stellar places!!
I don't buy any Lps unless they look pristine either. I keep my collecton at the 6,000 limit of my shelves, and gradually toss stuff when my new purchases start crowding the space up. So the collection has been improving gradually and now i can say it is pretty good. I usually suggest to folks interested in starting to do LPs, that they should check out the used LP sellers in thier area first, to see what sort of vinyl is available locally.
Good luck,...
And i will beat myself with a stick again for listening to CDs. (but not very hard or long, being lazy ;)