Warmest sounding Green Mountain speaker?

I havent heard the bigger GMAs but the bookshelf models I have heard are clearly flawed in the bass region IMO. The mid-upper bass which gives an acoustic instruments its woodiness character and to some extent the body was lacking seriously IMO.

Agree. The lack in the mid upper bass is due to the tiny cabinet volume of the bookshelf models. Anybody know how many litres Rio uses?

Apart from that, the driver they use is an aurasound woofer. For the price of Rio, you would expect accuton or scanspeak revelator etc.
Not a $20 woofer!

I did not know this at first but green mountain audio is a one man show.  They have apparently been around for a long time but for better or worse, they have not grown their company and become a B&W. 
And ultimately if a company produces speakers which only appeal to a small subset of audiophiles, this means it is does not have universal appeal and that is because of the unique way it sounds. That is to say, it is colored. 

I am not going to slander anybody as it is illegal. But this is an audio forum where audiophiles are free to express their opinions. Its not just just compliments, we need to hear complaints as well. I will make sure everything I say respects the rules of this forum. Thank you very much

Newer versions of the Rio have been introduced using the pretext of 'better time coherence' which audiophiles accept without questioning, whereas if you listen to the speakers, (which i have personally done) what you find is a difference in the TONALITY. For example the difference in sound between the rio and the chroma, is that the forwardness noted in the review is now gone but its still not right, in my view.

I really dont have an axe to grind. I have happily moved on from my bad experience with these. That doesnt mean I should not post in any thread about GMA. 

As you say people are free to choose what they like. If my opinion is rubbish I am fine with that. 

If one thinks GMA is no good then one is free to produce and sell better speakers. 

If you want to buy them that is fine too.

you jumped in to say bad things about the Chroma, Roy and GMA

I wish i had seen threads like this before my purchase. Look, GMA make speakers which are divisive. I will not apologise for saying i hated their sound. It is the absolute truth.  
Why would I lie? if I loved them why would i say theyre horrible?
Ive owned PMC, B&W to name a couple and they were a fraction of the cost of the GMA but the GMA did not sound better it sounded (far ) worse. 

Now as far as the other points i made about cheap parts, thick cabinet walls, no chamfering, lobing, if you dont agree, then attack the points I made, dont attack me.

4th order crossovers are HARDER to do than 1st order not easier. They require more parts and each has to be chosen to within a tighter tolerance than wit 1st order.

And GMA say that they are 1st order but their tweeter is rolling off at 2khz so obviously its not going to be first order below 2khz once you add that roll off onto the natural rolloff. There is also no impedance correction on the tweeter so at its resonance you wont be getting much attenuation there either. The 14cm centre to centre distance between their drivers causes lobing at all frequencies above 1.25khz. (1.25khz is the frequency such that half of its wavelength is 14cm.)
Clearly with a first order crossover the only way to avoid lobing is by using concentric drivers

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/seas-soft-dome-tweeters/seas-prestige-27tdfc-h1189-textile-dome-tweeter/

You can see the rolloff at 2khz

What makes GMA so special that it requires a special room to work in? Why is it that my PMC sounded acceptable in the same room? and the cheap B&W speakers before that? And every other speaker I've tried?
But not GMA?
Is there any aspect of GMA speakers which CAN be faulted? If so, what? Can they be improved? How?
Does the title of this thread allude to the fact that GMA are not 'warm' sounding?
How do you explain the reviewers same opinion that there is a lack of warmth and tonal neutrality? Are we all wrong?
http://www.hifinews.co.uk/news/article/green-mountain-audio-eos-pound;4400/7610

Oh, and my listening space was small, and far from ideal.

Tell Roy that and ask him why they worked in your room but not mine!

Electrons travel at the same speed whether going through a first order crossover or a 100th order crossover. The electrons will reach your tweeter at the same time as they do your woofer. There is no such thing as ’’time coherence’’ it is a false marketing term just like the false claims of burn in. Please do not be fooled. Do your homework. Dont just jump on the bandwagon and believe what this guy says.
Its a false argument given to differentiate a product from the rest of the bunch.
See point number 8 on the list of gimmicks

http://www.audioholics.com/how-to-shop/avoiding-loudspeaker-gimmicks

Lobing on the other hand is real and first orders create the worst. If you dont believe me, move up and down in front of any first order speaker and you will hear severe changes in sound making it difficult to get the correct tonality.

The other fallacy which Roy perpetuates is the false dilemma that you either choose a first order or a higher order crossover. Neither are ideal. Both make different trade offs.

Anybody who currently owns GMA speakers can vastly improve their performance by the following way. This modification will work very well for Rio, Eos and Europa (and any other speaker). You will get the warmth that is lacking.

Buy a pair of these digital plate amplifiers. They require a pc to set the crossover settings. You will then need to unscrew the drivers and then desolder the wires and wire some cables onto the drivers and pass them out of the port (or from the back if you drill a hole in the wood at the back). very easily done.

You can choose any crossover slope you like from first order to fourth order and any type from bessel, butterworth to linkwitz riley.
You can also equalise the tweeter and woofers response to flatten them. You can also add or take away time delay on the tweeter.
You can do all of this in real time and compare the results.

Come back and tell us whether you prefer the sound. You cant go wrong with this. Even if you want to stick with first order slopes, it is still vastly better to go active than passive. You cannot lose. Even if you want to replicate the original transfer function of the passive crossover,
you can do this AND benefit from the active amplification.
You will immediately hear the difference between 1st and 4th order.

Once you get these plate amps, you can even upgrade the tweeter (and woofer) on your speakers to higher quality ones. Possibilities are endless.

https://www.minidsp.com/products/plate-amplifiers/pwr-ice125

In the highly unlikely event you want to go back to the original speaker, that is easily done since this is a reversible modification.