We Need A Separate Forum for Fuses

And I didn’t predict the appropriate response is "not allowed". 😮

uberwaltz - Gdhal, Why so surprised? Did you really think that all the blarney on the "other" fuse thread went unheeded or unnoticed by the powers that be.

Well, one of my posts was simply stating today's current news event.... as in a famous comedian being found guilty..... no need - IMO - to delete what is already in the public domain.....hence my surprise  😥

uberwaltz - Gdhal, Why so surprised? Did you really think that all the blarney on the "other" fuse thread went unheeded or unnoticed by the powers that be.

Even more surprising - to me anyway - is how a post from kosst_amojan is deleted, yet a post by someone else who quotes the post by kosst_amojan remains.

I’m surprised you’re not surprised 🤗 😆

I hate to judge too quickly but it appears those who believe in and sell voodoo are acting out on their delusional tendencies by having to have the last word. 😆

geoffkait - You obviously don’t get it. I always get the last word. It’s the custom.

One reason I’ve been in communication with Audiogon is to try and change - as in prevent - that though. 😁 Reminder: Withdrawal can be very painful 😩

cleeds - It’s fair to question positive results.

Absolutely. This is why it behooves those who claim to hear an improvement when an ordinary fuse/wire is reversed to be honest with themselves and do a blind test (i.e. a test where ones ears are the only sensory organ involved). 👂

^Well, I thought I made it clear that I'm not demanding anything (i.e. no one owes me any proof, etc.) to support the impossible. Hearing a difference when an ordinary fuse/wire is reversed falls into the category of impossible, by my definition. And, by your own statements, I don't need to submit any proof what-so-ever that it is in fact impossible.

Just pointing out that one should be honest *with themselves*. If you truly believe and are content with "I hear a difference" irrespective of anything else, then more power to you. Besides, it's your money.

Speaking of which..... 

@nonoise 

Look, I'm truly sorry if my written replies offend you in any way.

Have you considered that "Ain't nobody messin' with you but you"?

nonoise - A troll is a troll is a troll.

@geoffkait 

This is your queue.

@cleeds 

Look, I'm truly sorry if my written replies offend you in any way.

Have you considered that "Ain't nobody messin' with you but you"?

cleeds - If offense was your objective, it's unfortunate that you've been disappointed.

@geoffkait 

This is your queue.

nonoise - It's deja vu all over again.

I've highly recommended Amy > Bob > Amy > Bob, however, Amy > CSNY  > Amy > CSNY is acceptable.

uberwaltz - Somebody has really lost the plot big time here......
My head is spinning!

That would be Geoff. Not only has he fallen completely out-of-queue, he missed the questions mitch2 has posed. 🤓

nonoise - That would make as much sense as Bob > Carol > Ted > Alice.

It makes more sense than your current listening criteria to verify after-market fuse worthiness, which is nothing more than "I hear a difference".

uberwaltz - What more requirements does a buyer and user of an aftermarket fuse NEED than that they can hear a difference?

Nothing, unless you're not looking to be as honest with yourself as you could otherwise be.

uberwaltz - Sorry but I listen to music not science.

No apology necessary. Listening to music is more than many others have professed though. Good for you. Keep in mind I've offered you music, and I have yet to read/hear back from you.

nonoise - Why aren’t you trolling all the other threads on the above mentioned gear and having at it?

To begin with, I’m not trolling. In any case, if you consider my replies trolling, that is your business. Unfortunately, site "rules" do not allow me to respond adequately to your question. Suffice it to say, however, that the U.S. is a great place to visit in the summertime.

+1

@kosst_amojan

geoffkait - I bet establishing the proper orientation of all six fuses was a bear. 🐻

Your operative words are "I bet". I've asked. You've declined. That ends that argument. 🤑

nonoise - You’re wrapped way too tightly costco.

@nonoise

You’ve stooped to a new low. Name calling? Congratulations. You’ve joined the ranks of geoffkait and cleeds.

EDIT:

All the best.

nonoise - .....to say someone needs to calm down (which is what "wrapped too tightly" implies) is not name calling.....

@nonoise 

That would be true.  However, I'm referring to your addressing kosst_amojan as costco. Please refer to your 04-27-2018 5:19pm post.

mitch2 - Serious question...is there any way this thread could be more entertaining? Dancing bears.....

@mitch2
I agree. This thread - and the forum in general - is entertaining. And for that, I’m grateful to everyone. 🙂

ptss - Definitely disappointing when (some) gents can’t remain focused on the positive aspects of a topic :(

+1

uberwaltz -  But agreed it would be hard for even Monty Python to write some of this stuff!

+1

geoffkait -  It’s never a bad time to post for the sake of posting, eh spaceman? It counts whether it’s a paragraph or a plus sign. Keep your dog in the fight. Even though your dog is a poodle. 🐩

Monty Python was never as funny as this though
https://www.machinadynamica.com/

fleschler - I was not offered the stupid blind test; however, I can afford it but why would I bother since I already know how superior the SR blue and circuit breakers are to cheap fuses.

To confirm whatever difference you believe you are hearing. This is for your benefit, as in being honest with yourself.

fleschler - As to SR duplexes and fuses, installed correctly, they are quite obvious in their audio reproduction benefit.

Then you should have no problem demonstrating your ability to reliably hear a difference in a blind test. I believe I (paraphrasing) asked/offered not long ago, and you declined.

geoffkait - That’s why humans have five senses, including the sense of hearing.

Yes, but in the case of fuses and where audio is concerned, hearing is the only sense that should be relied upon. So if your not making your determination that SR fuses are better in a blind test, you're doing it wrong.

@geoffkait 

This is your queue.

@ptss 

Same post of mine was just made in another thread, but this is worth repeating, IMO.

I understand your point. And I have no disagreement.

For what its worth, I've made my suggestion/recommendation known to Audiogon. The essence of my suggestion is to enhance forum moderation, by empowering the OP with some additional functionality (overview below) .

Let's be honest. The main issue or problem persona is GK. I simply believe in the eye-for-an eye, tooth-for-a-tooth scenario.

I've provided two channels for change, either one (or both) of which will have a dramatic impact. One is the enhanced forum moderation function, another is that I've essentially invited those who state the impossible to come visit Long Island NY and be my guest.


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uberwaltz - However instead of clogging up other threads why don't you start a thread just on that subject and let's discuss it there?

Point taken. In this case it was a direct response to ptss within the thread where the presumed offense has occurred. 

I've tried three different brands and they all had their own sonic signature and each brand sounded better in one direction over the other.

Just curious if you were able to detect a sonic difference between brands an/or changing their direction via a blind or double blind test.

"That would be something" 

This debate gets tiring after a while.

@genez 

Try hearing a sonic benefit in a blind test. That'll end the debate.

God gave you one mouth and two ears for a reason. - Judge Judy

We're done - Judge Judy

The owner of Harbeth Speakers has an interesting challenge that he has offered for years.

Certain folks here on Agon get all bent-out-of-shape at the mere thought of a "challenge". 

I am not a fuse adopter, with digital front end.

By the way, I haven’t read anything herein (could have missed it though) about cases where fuses are not readily accessible and therefore require one to open a factory sealed component and risk voiding the warranty as a result of doing so. Of course if you’re a do-it-yourself person that may be a moot point.

But voiding or potentially voiding a manufacturers warranty is a hell of a price to pay for being stylish.

geoffkait - It goes without saying the fuse, even if it’s a stock fuse, will sound significantly better in one direction than the other.

How about you contact me privately, so we can begin communication regarding your ability to hear a significant improvement when a stock fuse is oriented in the opposite direction. 

@geoffkait 

I understand. I just figured that because you are able to hear a "significant" improvement, the type of test wouldn't even matter. Never mind.

....but the ones I've seen that say there's a difference, actually heard the difference, whereas the ones that say there are no differences, say it without benefit of hearing it for themselves...

Of course though there are also ones that say there's a difference, yet are unable to reliably make the same statement once subjected to any kind of objective test. So there "saying" isn't really long lived.

folkfreak - Perhaps it's just the less constructive posters who are being blocked -- seems as if Geoff and I can post freely to the original Blue thread

Geoff, constructive? Thanks. I needed a good laugh. 

..... It's not a matter of cash. It's a matter of brains, and fuses are brainless.

And delusional. 

geoffkait  = fiction

geoffkait - I am the King of Fiction and the King of Truth.

You are king of having to have the last word.

@douglas_schroeder 

My sentiments too! I'd venture to say nearly everyone else on the forum as well!

That’s 2 "snake oil" fuse threads shut down, hope the others do too if they start with all the outrageous claims of of sound improvements for their systems being suddenly transformed.

But like I said they’re like weeds, pull one out and another one pops up. It’’s the mantra of the fusing shiller. And judging by Geoff’s post the weed seed has been sewn.

+1

Just so any interested party should know, any reference to me and drugs goes way back many years. Nothing current, except beer. I’d venture to say the majority of the world does or has tried some kind of drug, especially if one considers doctor prescribed drugs. Some of the greatest musicians have experimented too. Including the Beatles, which the vinyl lovers among the group typically revere. If you haven’t tried it, you ought to. It opens one mind to creativity and possibilities, not the impossible.

Oh and cleeds, you might want to consider brushing up on the English language.

Thank you for quoting me, however, you should note that my statement regarding drugs refers to the past, not the present.

You made a similar mistake when you confused the words "offer" and "promoting". 🤑

@geoffkait 
"Clowns are the pegs on which the circus is hung". P.T. Barnum

cleeds - I don't think brain damage is a funny topic.

Agreed. But my wallet and I are rather confident I don't have it.

geoffkait - I assume you misfired. Better load again.

Nope. "My aim is true", to quote Elvis Costello. 

Incidentally, even you would have to agree I was/am right about the fact that you have to have the last word. Read back a few posts.

As to drugs, should this forum close for 24 hours or more, or no members post in that period, you would suffer the worst withdrawal symptoms imaginable.

Carry on.

geoffkait - It’s a time honored tradition here for me to have the last word.

Even if what you write is fiction, which you've since admitted you're the king of.