Which USB to S/PDIF converter with Metrum Octave?


I'm exploring USB converters to pair with my Metrum Octave, which in turn feeds a Lamm LL2 deluxe and a McIntosh MC275. I read comments suggesting the converter is very important, but equally important is how it interacts with the DAC to be used.

So far my top pick is an Audiophilleo 2 with PurePower. This would also be about the higher end of what I'm willing to spend ($1k).

I read great things about the Off-Ramp, but it's over my budget. Same for Berkeley's converter.

One line that has me intrigued is Bel Canto's. The uLink is $675, but doesn't have a good power supply. What it does have is the fiber optic out, and Steven Stone recently found that connection superior to the others when connecting to a Bel Canto DAC. Anyone tried it with the Octave? Or the REFLink?

Other converters I should consider?

Thank you!
lewinskih01

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Jb, thanks for the offer, but not really what I'm after. I'm looking into some of the best USB converters and looking for user input regarding best match with my DAC.

Thanks
Naggots,

Thanks for the lead. I believe you are referring to the JKenny Ciunas, right? It was not on my radar screen, so great tip. It's probably too new, which explains why I can't find references - let alone matching to an Octave.

But I recall that on Elberoth's converter shootout, where he used an Octave as one of the DACs to try, the JKenny EVO stack was on par with the Audiophilleo without PurePower. So if Ciunas is conceivably better that EVO, then the Ciunas vs AP with PP should be interesting.

I guess I will need to let a bit of time go by so early adopters start telling about Ciunas performance.

Thanks again!
Loftarasa,

Thanks for the tip on iFi products. Been doing a fair amount of reading since receiving your tip, and the iUSB is well reviewed by many users. The iLink seems to be too new and can't find much more than speculation about its performance. Please let us know how it performs for you. How much did you pay for it? My understanding is the iUSB is $300, the Gemini about $200, but have not seen price references for the iLink.

Thanks again!
Great tips. Thanks to all!

I thought I should come back and share my thoughts as of now. First off, too bad I'm not in Europe or the US so can't audition any of these options.

The iFi iUSB looks great and there has been quite a bit of enthusiasm from users. Great! The Gemini cable has received a lot of online time, but not so mane rave reviews. The iLink...is missing in action as far as user reports go, yet there was significant anticipation before launch...I'm guessing it's good, but not great.

I also considered switching the Metrum Octave Mk I For a Mk II since the latter has the same USB input board the Hex has, which is so well reviewed. That would be the lowest cost option. Turns out in the case of the Mk II the USB board is powered from the computer power through the USB cable, unlike the Hex. So this option would need an extra box, like the iFi iUSB. Still a valid option.

The JKenny Ciunas converter looks promising. Again, little talk yet. One user on head-fi finally reported back yesterday about this converter + Octave and liked it a lot. Most talk is about the Ciunas DAC, though. One guy who is in the audio industry (with no afiliation to neither, as far as I know), tried Ciunas DAC vs Ciunas converter + Octave and preferred the former, but he is driving his amps directly from the DAC and I suspect the unusual output section of the Octave could have something to do with the result, and I won't use it in that fashion.

BTW, the Offramp that was mentioned I decided not to pursue, even used, as the design seems to change all the time, is still very expensive, and having treated power or batteries for it would make it even more expensive. No doubt is a great performer, though.

Bottom line, I'm down to Audiophilleo 2 with PurePower vs Ciunas converter. I wish I could listen to both, but can't. The AP has been said to sound more in your face vs other top performers, like the Offramp. While my tube pre and amp should take care of that, my B&W speakers can be in your face too, so I can only wonder if I will end up with fantastic clarity, or too much in your face sound. I know, impossible to describe or decide by typing or reading. Oh well!

Thanks all again!
I did buy an Audiophilleo 2 + PurePower and I´m super-happy. Best sound I ever had! A very audible improvement.

There was no way for me to try them side by side, though. I ended up opting for the AP as there were so many good reviews of it, and some very good also when paired with the Octave. For example, member Elberoth had a shootout (posted over at computeraudiophile) and compared this combo and talked about it quite favorably, especially in light of his super DCS setup.

Bottom line, I can't state it's better than the Ciunas, but I can say it's mighty good. Plus it was a pleasure to deal with the owner.

You also have an Octave? Running PC or Mac?