Mow the lawn? I thought you said "watch TV".
Yanni or Laurel?
Is this why some reviewers/audiophiles hear differences others can't?
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/05/dont-rest-on-your-laurels/560483/
I only hear Laurel and my wife only hears Yanni.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/05/dont-rest-on-your-laurels/560483/
I only hear Laurel and my wife only hears Yanni.
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Yes, our ability to hear correctly can be misleading at times. A man in the hospital had just come back from a procedure and was still under the effects of medication. Somewhat slurring his speech he asked the nurse, "Are my test results back?" She pulled back the top sheet and started moving his private parts in all different directions and said, "No, Mr. Jones, your testicles are not black." |
tls49 Yes, our ability to hear correctly can be misleading at times.That’s not the issue here at all with the Laurel vs. Yanni question. In this instance, different people listening to the same thing hear consistently different results. Some hear "Laurel," others "Yanni." That there could be such discrepancy isn’t a question of our hearing being misled, but rather proves that two people exposed to the same sound can hear two very different things. I think that raises significant questions about our hobby, how valid listening tests should be conducted and even whether a scientifically valid listening test is even possible. Listen for yourself. https://www.cnet.com/news/yanny-or-laurel-the-internet-is-fighting-over-this-mysterious-word/ I hear Laurel, btw. |
Yes, cleeds, my initial statement was not correct. How about, Our ability to hear differently can be misleading at times. BTW, it was just a lead in for the joke. I hear Yanni on the original clip, but can hear both on this clip with varing pitch shift. I would really worry if I couldn't hear both on it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LrWMFsz5VOg |
I have asked three folks at work today, and surprisingly two (one male and one female) hear a combination of each, while a third (male) only hears yanny. Cleeds - "I think that raises significant questions about our hobby, how valid listening tests should be conducted and even whether a scientifically valid listening test is even possible." Totally agree. Really supports the advice I see all the time on this and other forums of "trust your own ears - if it sounds good to you and you like it, that's what counts." |
I don’t hear either. If I assume the speaker is saying one of those two supposed words then it is just a really terrible pronounciation of either. If anything it is closer to Yanny with pitch going up slightly at the end which is how I would say it. I think this just proves how social media like twitter is mostly a complete waste of time. |
All I hear is "kill them, kill them all."lol...I just watched that X-Files episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wBNxn23fk |
I just saw a news clip on TV that showed an audio analysis on a scope of the sound waves. They suggested there is a high pitch Yanni and a lower pitch Laurel being pronounced at exactly the same time. The audio analysis suggested that some people have their ears tuned to high pitch and some to low pitch, and that determines which name/voice they hear. |
I don't hear either. All I hear is "kill them, kill them all." But then again, I hear that all the time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb8GBSbBES0 |
I heard Yanny but the NY Times made a cool slider so you can hear both. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html?module=Wat... |
I can concentrate and move the slider about 95% in other other direction (starting at the one given end) and still hear only the one starting word. Ie, good discernment an separation skills. It’s that thing that allows us to hear someone speaking in a crowd of 400 people. To hear the singular voice we are trying to hear, or to expand that to the 4 or 5 people in your group. Even when the ambient noise is only 3-4 db less, or even as high in overall level as the people you are speaking with. Basically, we can slide our ’world’s finest’ (the human ear/brain) FFT analysis system controls and setting around, on the fly...and then the discernment is almost ’locked in’ and we do not hear the rest. We, or more specifically.... our hearing is built for this. So no small wonder some can’t hear something and the rest of the folks are throwing rocks about the given point about what is heard. Or vice versa. It’s literally in your head, in any given direction. Once heard, it cannot be unheard, a thing we all tend to experience here. SO EASE OFF ON THE FUSE THREAD ATTACKS, OK? (are you reading this, fuse and cable detractors? You’ve just been handed the truth that the fuse fans -------are as real as it gets) Just remember, 97% of the population is wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNGFep6rncY so, if we gave people chance to clearly and silently collate and sort themselves.... and I came back and somehow looked..100% of the people to read this and see the video...100% of you would be crowded into a spot that in reality, only holds 3% of the general population. We would all give ourselves the condition of being in the 3%. That's the irony of the human condition. |
Oh futz. People are different and what one hears does not mean that what the other hears is wrong. Haven't you ever looked at a sky with clouds on a nice day out of your left eye and then out of your right? The two eyes are different. Is one right and the other wrong? Nah. There's a lot of judgemental snobbery in this hobby. There always was.Live and let live I always say. Except for those fuse nuts. Man, go figure... |
I've always heard "Yanni". When I moved the NYT slider to the third tick from the left I started hearing "Laurel". Then as I moved it towards the right I kept hearing "Laurel" all the way to the farthest right tick. It was only after I paused it that I started hearing "Yanni" again. And when I moved it back to the left I started hearing "Laurel" by the middle tick. |
OK, so Laurel seems to be tracking around 60%, and Yanny the other 40%. Here's the thing though. These two words are entirely different!. I am amazed by this, as I have only ever heard Laurel. I have tried different sources, moved to different rooms, but it's always Laruel. The people who hear Yanny, I truly believe can hear OK as it's about 40% of us. If we were comparing 2 words like "witch" and "stich" I would expect such diversity, but Yanny & Laurel? I wonder if there are other things that people hear differently. |