Room treatment made me cry.......a little........

Great to hear your response to what I've been advised to do for quite some time now. Emotional connections made from music go very deep. Maybe it's time now for me to buy some Kleenex.

A new believer. It often is all about the tweak of the room, not new equipment. However, there is often no need to remove the TV, just do a custom diffuser to place over the screen. I can't count the number of systems that show up on Audiogon with the TV between the speakers. Also, even if you don't have the Tv, most have their equipment rack between the speakers, which is a no/no, unless you have it acoustically shielded.

Amen to that. I did that last week and every word you say is correct...even more.
I have "started off" with 2 tri-traps and 2 monster-traps. I have a small room and the bass actually has definition. I used to hear this all over the forum, but was not sure what it means. At the same time, the treble clarity has drastically increased. I was assuming that with the panels, the treble would go down. But, I guess, this is what happened - the bass reflections were controlled. Hence they are not smearing the treble waves. So, I find the treble more clear. I was all exited and described it to my wife, as my 6 1/2 year was watching. After I was done, he mentioned - wow, you are so exited. Yep I am.

GIK is a strange company. I was ready to buy more, but they would simply not let me do it. Just kidding. What I mean is - Bryan was absolutely helpful for making my decision. He suggested the panels, based on the room dimensions and pictures I sent. He then asked me to put the panels and listen for a week or more, before deciding if I needed more treatment. This is what all the audio firms should do. Not just push your products on customers.

And all this with the speakers sitting directly on carpet (without spikes), which is on wooden floor. I am waiting for the granite slabs to come in. I then intend to spike the speakers and put them on the granite slabs.

Acoustic treatments are easily the best investments in this great hobby!!

Your post Bill is almost enough to make me contemplate divorce. As everyone always says, the room is THE most important component. I have a decent room, but I cannot make it my own. I've been waiting many years for the kids to move out, but that's not looking like it's ever going to happen. One finally did leave but my wife stole his room for her scrapbooking cave before I had everything unplugged. Then he moved back in again anyway...sigh. It looks like the only chance I have of being able to weep like that is to run away and hide. :-)

I'm glad you have found sonic nirvana, now be a smart boy and jump off the merry-go-round NOW!!!

Cheers,
John

Jmcgrogan, yes I will stay put! Ha!

Buconero117, if the gear is 4 feet behind the front plane of the speakers and only 2 feet off the floor and in a rack that allows space over, under and throughout the gear, then how much can this really impact the sound?

I think running long single ended ic's would be more of a negative. I can't afford long runs of speaker cable and love my 10 foot set. It seems if gear is on the floor or on a very short rack (2 feet or so) it may not be an issue. I would think gear set up this way between the speakers would do more scattering? Just a question?

Sgr, I also owned panels from the two companies you mentioned and they dulled the room only. Same experience as you.