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What Does Holographic Sound Like?

And how do you get there? This is an interesting question. I have finally arrived at a very satisfying level of holography in my system. But it has taken a lot of time, effort and money to get there. I wish there had been a faster, easier and less expensive way to get there. But I never found one.

Can you get to a high level of holography in your system with one pair of interconnects and one pair of speaker wires? I don't believe so. I run cables in series. I never found one pair of interconnects and speaker wires that would achieve what has taken a heck of a lot of wires and "tweaks" to achieve. Let alone all the power cords that I run in series. Although I have found one special cable that has enabled the system to reach a very high level of holography -- HiDiamond -- I still need to run cables in series for the sound to be at its holographic best.

There are many levels of holography. Each level is built incrementally with the addition of one more wire and one more "tweak". I have a lot of wires and "tweaks" in my system. Each cable and each "tweak" has added another level to the holography. Just when I thought things could not get any better -- which has happened many times -- the addition of one more cable or "tweak" enabled the system to reach a higher level yet.

Will one "loom" do the job. I never found that special "loom". To achieve the best effects I have combined cables from Synergistic Research, Bybee, ASI Liveline, Cardas, Supra and HiDiamond -- with "tweaks" too numerous to mention but featuring Bybee products and a variety of other products, many of which have the word "quantum" in their description.

The effort to arrive at this point with my system has been two-fold. Firstly, finding the right cables and "tweaks" for the system. Secondly, finding where to place them in the system for the best effects -- a process of trial and error. A lot of cables and "tweaks" had to be sold off in the process. I put "tweaks" in quotation marks because the best "tweaks" in my system have had as profound effect as the components on the sound. The same for the best of the cables, as well. For me, cables and "tweaks" are components.

Have I finally "arrived"? I have just about arrived at the best level that I can expect within my budget -- there are a couple of items on the way. In any case, I assume there are many levels beyond what my system has arrived at. But since I'll never get there I am sitting back and enjoying the music in the blissful recognition that I don't know what I am missing.

I should mention that there are many elements that are as important as holography for the sound to be satisfying, IMO. They include detail, transparency, coherence, tonality, and dynamics, among others. My system has all of these elements in good measure.

Have you had success with holographic sound in your system? If so, how did you get there?
sabai
chadeffect
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Regarding mars, I was under the impression Europa was the more likely place to find life. It's a world (moon) of ice which is being pulled by gravitational forces large enough to create heat deep inside leaving liquid seas due to all the friction.

So it's a place with water and heat completely sealed in by a shell of ice. Sounds more promising than mars which probably didn't really have long enough as a fertile planet, with an atmosphere with running water to let complex life forms develope. But there is only one way to find out...

I think we are begining an understanding that life is more likely than unlikely.

Learsfool,

I think the best places to share ideas are places free of anyone deciding what can or cannot be said. As long as there is respect for others.

Who is to decide which ideas are good or bad or whose experiences are real or not? As I mentioned in an earlier post, unless you have tried it you have no opinion. Just ego.

I find it odd that many posts decend into arguments about equipment or even tweaks people have not heard or even tried.

The "fuse" debate and the "cable"debate are always full of it. So do we let the some just erase these posts all together?
sabai OP
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Mapman,
When you mentioned "the line between useful information and nonsense", I think it is abundantly clear that there is no line here. This is pure unadulterated nonsense -- crazy talk for the sake of hearing its own voice -- as we see so many times on Audiogon forums. In fact, this is so predictable that it becomes supremely boring watching the same scenario play out time and time again here. So, if this is the way Audiogon wants it, let this thread be taken over by nonsense and let it die in nonsense talk, like so many other Audiogon threads have. I could not care less.
sabai OP
2,027 posts
 
Learsfool,
I agree with you completely when you state "simply banning those type of folks that are just insulting and contribute nothing useful." It is odd that Audiogon often lets these "type of folks" dominate threads while others either back off or have their replies disallowed.
sabai OP
2,027 posts
 
Bryoncunningham and Douglas_schroeder,
You fellows seem rather level headed. Why don't we let everyone who wants to "step into the ring" at Barnum and Bailey enjoy themselves while the three of us and any others of like mind carry on a conversation among ourselves about holographic sound. Alternatively, the moderator might want to close the thread so the Barnum and Bailey show can look for another location to pitch their tent. Which would be just fine by me. LOL.
sabai OP
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Geoffkait,
Altering the sound on CDs with pens is well-known. And the fact that sound is altered by everything in the room is also well-known. But when we begin to indulge in the vague and mysterious for the sake of being vague and mysterious -- as though these factors supersede the obvious things in our audio systems -- then we begin to enter The Audio Twilight Zone. I think we have enough on our hands trying to figure out our components and cables and "tweaks" and room treatment.
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