Ok this will be a good thread.

Inpep, I did run the LP12 through the A40s. I ran the P3 through the Isobarik DMS speakers. There is no question that the Isobarik DMS speaker is miles better than the little $150 A40s. The amps were the same. Are you concluding that everyone that heard this thought that the A40s were a better speaker than the DMS?

If you think that there are bigger differences between speakers than sources, then you need to hear what a good analog setup sounds like. I know that we have widely differing opinions on just about everything, but I am just now finding out how wide those differences are.

Asa - Reporting in - No detectable alchemy showing up on my nonsense meter so far. ;)

Yea, Muralman, I must be losing my touch. BUT, just look at the post I just put on twl's "This will be a good thread" in Amp/Pre section (poor twl...). I'm figuring to get roasted alive! Your meter will be off the dial!

Ahhh, just like getting in a warm bath...

OK, I'm also lossing my mind - its twl's "How could hiend be improved?" thread in Misc. Audio.

I give you permission to go there and beat on me...:)

From a speakers first guy, as I said above, record playing equipment, ie turntables, tonearms and cartridges can be as inaccurate and as idiosyncratic as speakers. And the bad cartridges and bad cartridge-tonearm interfaces have no charm, unlike some wildly inaccurate speakers that people still like. But, unless you're talking about bad upstream components, which shouldnt be bought at all, rather than less good, which come down to pricing, speakers obviously make the most difference, except for the recordings, of course.

A good recording of a good performance can be made unlistenable through a bad cartridge or a bad speaker. I havent heard a cd player or amp that can do that much damage.