Integrated amp & player for B&W 804, pls


Hi, All.

I bought B&W Nautilus 804. Now I am in the process of choosing the right gear to drive them. I listened them with Denon 5803, Marantz, Rotel 1065 ... and I did not like what I heard. So, I decided to go with Integrated amplifier. Doing some search I found it seems people like them with Mcintosh 6500, Classe CAP-151. What do you think about these Int amp, or could you recommend something else? And with CD player I am kinda lost. I read NAD got the good scores at What Hi-Fi? magazine but I am not sure. Besides I'd prefer to have 5-CDs changer.

Thanks in advance,
Konstantin
konstantin_agon
i have heard the classe a couple of times once one a pair of magnepans and another time on a pair of revel f30s. i was not impressed with it. it did not draw me into the music. it was very boring and not very refined. never heard the mcintosh. if you are looking for an intergrated i would recommend a plinius 8200, unison research unico, or a vtl it-85. the plinius is the best solid state intergrated i have heard. i have not heard them all and i am sure there are better but this amp is very sweet. it sound very warm a little tube like, and at 175 wpc it has power to drive most speakers. i currently own the unico and it is a great integrated amp. it is hybrid amp that uses 12au7 tubes in the preamp stage. it is very warm, and extremely natural and transparent. it just disappears. the vtl it-85 is an all tube amp. it is pretty quick and produces good bass for a tube amp. and it obviously has all the qualities of tubes. the plinius can be had easily here for under $1500. the unico cost $1295-$1395 brand new. i got it for $1100 used here. the vtl is very hard to find used. i am still looking for one. it cost $2500 new. as far as source goes i believe sony's, don't remember model number, sacd/cd changer is the best changer you can get for the money. it goes for $800 new so it is a real bargin if you can find it used. hope this helps and good luck.
forgot to mention one other thing. i used to own a pair of 805s and i used it with the unico for about a month. they are a great match. the tubes tamed the nautilus tweeter a little, and added some more sweetness to an already excellent midrange.
you didn't say how big your room is. I use Cary V12i/SLP 2002 to drive my N804s. In my 11x13 room, 50wpc triode is plenty of power for them. I used to use a Classe CAP 151 and it was effortless and a little tubelike for an integrated. The Unico would be a good bet if your room is small like mine.
Thanks for your replies!

My room is 12x20 with large opening to the dinining room.

I've just listened N804 with Mcintosh MA6500 integrated amplifier. I liked the sound. The female voice is very natural, plenty of bass. Much better comparing to DENON 5803.

I do not think I care about SACD for now, just good 5-CDs changer.

Could you also advise me how can I extend my 2ch integated amp into home theater.
These babies require lots of current. If you can, try listen
to something like the Plinius 8200 as well as the Classe.
Avoid the common Krell/B&W combination - it's like an
icepick in the ear.

John.