Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Just thought I'd check in...

I'm still waiting for the CDSD. I'm positive it will arrive this week.
In the meantime I'm using the Accustic Arts Drive 1 as a transport along with the Stealth cable.

For weeks I have had the choice of using an old MSB DAC or my DCC2. The bottom line is that the MSB DAC with all the upsampling defeated and all the filters turned off is so much more enjoyable than the DCC2. The music has so much more honesty and life to it. Sure, it has *lots* of flaws. It is a very raw and unsophisticated but it is also authentic and unprocessed.
In this particular set-up the DCC2 is at best, boring. At worst, it sounds processed and smoothed over. You know that awful sound you sometimes get when a solid state amp is 'warmed up and smoothed over' in the hopes of making it sound like a good tube amp?
(Having said this, I'm sure that most audiophiles would still rather listen to my system using the DCC2.)

As you might have guessed; I've become very pessimistic about digital. The Stealth cable is, however, great. What I will probably end up doing is putting it between a decent transport and decent non-upsampling/no-filter DAC.

Having said all this, I still hope the CDSD makes me eat my words. It would sure save me lots of money if it did.
Exlibris, it sounds like you're a candidate for a higher-level Audio Note DAC. They have all the good stuff you like about the sound of your MSB, but with sophistication. They are real music-lover's DACs. The really good ones (3.1x and 4.1x families) won't save you much money, though.

Since getting mine just over two years ago I've lost any urge to go DAC hunting. I've just ordered one of their new CDT Three transports to feed it, and it looks like I'll be musically content for a long time.
Gliderguider,
I think you might be right; Audio Note and Zanden are both on my wish list of digital that I want to hear in my system. What can I do to get you to make the drive south? :-)
You could come and watch the Sens beat the crap out of the Leafs (again).
Hi guys...set up a new thread if you are interested. Which players make poorly recorded redbook CDs sound the best?
I've been using the CDSD for two days now via the ST Glass cables.
I will be getting a BNC cable this weekend to try in a set-up along with the Stealth AES/EBU.
I am getting very good sound from the EMM Combo. It is easily the best digital that I have heard in my system.
The next step will be to try the Stealth cable. My expectation is that it will be better. Then again, my expectations are usually incorrect.

Next month I have been offered the Weiss Medea/Jason to try in my system. That was a pleasant and unexpected surprise. I will be sure to report my findings to the thread.