Another wattage question.


I currently have the B&W 805 Signatures and am thinking about upgrading my amp. They apparently can handle 50-120 watts into 8 ohms. My question is, if I were to get an amp that puts out 250-350 watts into 8 ohms would that be okay? I know this is a newbie question but I just want to be sure. Thanks!
jzzmn88
Bottomsup,

IN GENERAL, I don't think that this assumption is valid. OTOH, ARC is a company with a long-standing reputation for good/excellent products. I have no personal experience w/ the D-100 so I cannot comment.

Nelson Pass once wrote an article on power supplies for power amps (It's on his website called "Power Supplies: Commentary for Consumers". Worth reading, IMHO). What he says there is that a toroidal xformer yields 30W/lb. From his paper I interpret that a 100W amp should be able to deliver 300W & that will force it to have a 900VA xformer, if the power supply is to be constructed correctly. Thus, this 900VA xformer will weigh 30lbs itself. Add heat-sinking, power supply caps, electronics, damping material & one could easily double the weight to 60lbs.
If a 100W amp can deliver 300W, it has atleast 3dB dynamic headroom.
Going by this white paper, 48lbs is on the low side. However, white papers are white papers! The proof of the pudding lies in listening to the amp. I doubt that the amp doubles its wattage as speaker imp. halves but that doesn't mean it's a bad amp! Listen to it, put it thru the ringer & you'll answer your question.
Bombaywalla, thanks, your reply above is one of the rare and priceless explanations that help people to get smarter in their audio quest... If there were Audiogon FAQ, this reply definitelly should be there.
Bombaywalla,

Thanks very much for your informative posts!! I second Dmitrydr, this should be in a FAQ. Are you an engineer by any chance?
The simple truth is that more speakers are damaged from too little available power than too much power. While your speaker is rated for 120 continuous watts, it's peak power handling is going to be much higher. That peak will even change with regard to the frequency of the signal. Your speakers will tolerate more power at 1khz than say 30hz. While the amp may be rated for 250 watts continuous, you would be hard pressed to find a musical signal that would require 250 watts continuous. Power pulled from an amp pretty much follows the beat of the music and those small periods of time when you hit 250 watts or more shouldn't be a problem to anything other than the smallest mini monitor. I fried more tweeters with my old Realistic 25watt receiver than I've ever fried with my Hafler XL600 or Pass X250. Amplifier clipping is far more hazardous than having too much available power.