Is it best to use a 5-channel amp for biamping??


My next amp will be a sunfire (not the signature series). Please advice if buying the 5-channel cinema grand and use its channels in a bi-amp configuration will give me better results as opposed to just getting the two channel stereo amp?

Thanks in advance
planckscale
Planckscale-

Not quite; sorry should have been clearer. A little b/ground first:
Two channel stereo:
your amp receives a full-range signal (i.e. all the frequencies, typically from ~20Hz to ~22kHz) from the pre, amplifies it, and sends it as is to the two speakers, each amp channel providing a signal to one speaker. In turn, the speakers have typically 2-3 drivers on them. Each driver is designed to work best reproducing PART of the full-range signal -- so a cross-over inside the speaker filters OUT (attenuates) certain frequencies and sends the rest to each driver. The result is that the 2-3 drivers, between them, combine to give us the full-range signal that originally left the amp.

NOW, what Sean and I were saying is that, IF you were to filter certain frequencies BEFORE they actually reached the channel of the amp and then connected the amp output DIRECTLY to the driver that works best with said frequencies, the result would be far better because each amplification channel would ONLY be amplifying the frequencies that the driver it's connected to reproduces, i.e., no waste. Also, since woofers eat up most of the energy, you could have one amp channel each for the two woofers (that's two channels) and another channel each for the rest (another two channels). That is active BI-amplification and in our example you need four amp channels to do it, so a 5channel amp is indicated (you even have 1 channel extra).

HOWEVER, if your speakers have a bi-wiring facility (i.e. two pairs of connectors behind each speaker, one mid-hi, one bass) AND these are actually DISCRETELY connected to two separate filters, you can, again use four channels of amplification, each channel connected to each of the speaker inputs (four inputs, two per speaker). BUT, in this case, each amp (a channel is an amp, anyway) would be amplifying the full-range signal part of which, in turn, would be filtered out by the crossover that's inside the speaker -- SO, little improvement (the crossover is a problem-maker!) to be expected usually. Sean also adds that, since it's the same amp (i.e. 4channels of the same amp) you will have the same sonic "signature" all round... if you were to use a different amp for, one of the speakers' sections, then there would be some versatility in roughly choosing the sound you like (soem people like tubes for mid-range, but use ss for the bass region, etc).
Hope this helps!
thanks sean and greg, I've been trying to understand this for sometime, and your explanations have finally made it make sense to me. Sounds to me like I will hold off on bi-amping until I'm ready to add a crossover between the processor and amp. one final question, if I am running N802's, which like high levels of power, would I hear sonic difference running two channels off my amp into each speaker, effectively doubling the power they're receiving? I realize it probably won't be as significant as actively filtering the corssover before the amp, but would it be pronounced given that my speaker respond better to increased power? (my amp is a Krell TAS 200x5)
Greg,
Thanks for the clarification! I am well versed on crossover /band-pass filters circuitry. I just wasn't clear on the way you used "sonic signature" in this context.

I think I will go for the 5-channel cinema grand, instead of the regular two channel Sunfire.

Thanks again.
I would like to read the response to Arthur's statement regarding the improvement with more power, would like to add a little twist to it.... if your 5 channel amp is struggling to handle the speakers (using one channel per side), so using 2 channels of the 5 for each side (L & R) wouldn't it be expected to have a more noticeable effect (common sense suggest dynamics) with this scenario? Thanks
Luis
Increasing power typically results in a more consistent presentation regardless of volume. This translates to maintaining a more cohesive and liquid presentation as spl's are increased rather than the grain, glare and distorton that we experienced when pushing the system with the smaller amp. By removing all of the negative attributes brought about by the limited headroom of the smaller amp, one can listen at higher levels with less fatigue for longer periods of time. That's because you aren't hurting your ears as much due to a reduction in multiple types of distortons. All of this with increased coherency. Then again, going to a bigger amp that lacks proper design and uses lower grade parts may actually sound worse than a lower powered amp that was well built and designed. Quality first, then quantity. Sean
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