Why the switch from Kharma/Tenor to DarTZeel/VSA


Perhaps, its like that old joke that Woody talks about in the beginning of Annie Hall:

"And it goes like this-I'm paraphrasing: Uh ...
"I would never wanna belong to any club
that would have someone like me for a
member." "

But, why does it seem that some of the original Kharma/Tenor/emm labs club members are switching over to DarTZeel amps and Von Schweikert speakers. On the other hand, it doesn't seem like there are many Tenor hybrids or Kharma speakers going up for sale ... yet
thom_y
Brian , I'm sorry, but statements like that shed no positive light on you as an individual. Let alone as a dealer.
I believe that,within the industry,50% discounts are available.Manufacturers usually accomidate each other ,when purchases are made.
Discounts of that magnitude certainly are not standard, but you didn't give your source of information. A manufacturer that gets 50 percent or less of retail list price for his product sets the price higher to compensate. Consumers don't always know.
Let's get back to the VSA's. How come we have not heard much about the VR-7's? Are they custom made also? How do they compare to the Wilson WP 7's or the Aerial 20's?
Rwd: The VR-7's are coming out in a few months as the new VR-7SE. The speaker will have a lot of the technology of the VR-11 and VR-9 without the powered woofer and a ported cabinet. If I am not mistaken, they will have a front and rear firing 3" ribbon super tweeter, the new (incredibly expensive) dual ring concentric tweeter, a 7" carbon/ceramic composite midrange driver and two 10" woofers. The speakers will weigh approximately 400 lbs each and deliver huge dynamics, incredible soundstaging, great refinement, bass down to around 18Hz and finally the speaker is also designed to take advantage of the high resolution formats. It will extend to well over 45kHz.

There are two Audiogon members who should recieve their VR-7's in early September. The speakers will be remarkable. They are priced at $30k and expected to better the Wilson Alexandria's in musicality, cohesiveness and soundstaging. They should be comparable in dynamics and depth of bass. The will definitely extend further in the highs. Based on what I heard in the VR-11 and my knowledge of the similarities in the VR-7's, it will probably better anything else on the market other than the VR-9 and VR-11.

Efficiency is expected to be 93-94db senistivity and a very easy load (OTL friendly). You can also expect approximately 120+ db SPL's.

I am proudly a Von Schweikert dealer and I say this all to you knowing that I am sure you have a dealer in your area, and I have no hope of making a sale to you. I urge you to audition them when they are available. I am sure you and your dealer will agree with my assessment.

Many of my customers who are waiting for their VR-9's and VR-7's, have VR-4jr's to hold them over until their new speakers arrive. I am sure they will chime in with their thoughts on what Von Schweikert is capable of.

Brian (Essentialaudio): You are totally unprofessional and I feel a disgrace to the industry. Your negativity and condescending nature disgusts me.