Tube suggestions for Cary 805c


I am looking for suggestions of 300b and 845 tubes to use in my Cary 805c's. I am thinking of changing to Sophia mesh plate 300b's (maybe the new princess) and Shuguang 845B's.

Does anyone else have experience with this match? I am also looking for other suggestions.

I am looking for a darker and smoother sound than the current KR 300b XLS's and standard issue Chinese 845's that are currently in the amp. From what I have read, it seems that the Shuguang 845B's will give me this sound over the 845M's.

Does anyone have other suggestions to accomplish this type of sound? Thanks in advance for the advice.
jeffreyds
I owned a Cary 805C for an extended period which I purchased new. I would recommend the following for you. First, have Cary change the coupling caps to Angela or Jensen copper in foil caps if you havent already. Takes awhile to break in (really) but they will sound awesome. It will make a huge difference. Second, my absolute favorite tube combination was with new production western electric 300B tubes and vintage RCA 845 tubes. AFter that combination, I could not go back to any other tubes. The difference over the other combinations I tried could not be beat. My 845 tubes I picked up used so the price was not too outrageous. To me, for an amp of this caliber, its worth it to spend some money on the 845 if you plan to keep it. They will last for a long long time. You can also ask Cary to modify your amps so you can try vintage 211 vt4c tubes which are much cheaper (RCA sounded better to me) and sounded better to me than the chinese 845 variants You cannot directly plug in the 211 tubes without risking damage to the tubes and the amp. Cary sells a kit with instructions for this or you can also pay them $500 to modify the amps for this purpose. One last note, People say the 805C anps are shy on bass. They also say this about the new production WE 300B tubes. I found that totally false. The reason they "dont have bass" in other peoples eyes is that they are not running the amps with speakers that are matched to their capability. I can tell you that my ex 805C units configured this way, hooked up to a homemade JBL olympus size cabinet with JBL S8R components blew away many of my single ended and push pull amps. The bass was totally awesome and gave me goosebumps when I listened to them. Anyways, my 2 cents.
Cary 805 amplifier owners should consider Sophia Electric 6SN7 and 6SL7 tubes in ST shape for input tube choices. The sound stage should be bigger than otherwise.