What can you tell me about First Sound pre-amps?

Boy, Artg, have you discussed your situation with Emmanuel? I find it very hard to believe that any lack of black background, or too much noise or dynamic limitations are caused by the PS II. Really hard to believe.

Artg, as you know, I use the APL Denon 3910, which could perhaps be one of the most transparent and dynamic sources available today. My VAC Phi 110/110 is no slouch either in that regard. I have observed absolutely no loss in transparency or dynamics when going through my Presence Deluxe II versus going direct from the APL to the VAC. This is why I question whether what you're hearing is directly related to the First Sound, or to another component.

well i didnt say the background was not quiet (or that it was "noisy" - it aint), or that there were no dynamics, but if you ask emmanuel himself what the upgraded versions of his preamps deliver - he will tell you quieter performance, better inner detail and delicacy and better dynamics. Since that's from the designer's own words- then it's obvious that the Presence Deluxe at 4200 is the FINAL word in preamp design, right?

Like i said I may end up with a Paramount, i just havent' decided. Yeah, i do have the disease bad.

and yes, i spode with emmanuel about sending in my FS for upgrades, and he was totally supportive. After all, I am not turning my back on his preamp by any means, but generally speaking, the FS was an extended audition for me. I love it, but want to push the envelope further, that's all.

Artg, I hate to see you needlessly chasing the Holy Grail after you've posted so many times about how thrilled you are with your system, that's all.

Regarding the "noise", that was my interpretation of what you said. I figure any lack of transparency or inner detail comes down to noise in the system, albeit an extemely small amount of noise at specefic frequencies. Most all upgrades involve improving the power supply and power delivery to make things quieter...and reduce noise. Certainly I agree that the PS II isn't the last word in the First Sound line. I'm sure you'll agree that all the improvements in the First Sound models as one moves up in price are directly related to improving and isolating power delivery.

Have fun. Perhaps there's an Audioholics Anonymous meeting nearby? You need it, my friend! :)