integrateds in the modern age: consensus?


Hi everyone,

Integrated amps are pretty well established now as a viable component category. I don't think are many people left who scoff at the basic concept of an integrated.

Is there any sort of general consensus that has been reached on the issue of integrateds vs. separates at a given price point? As in, would a great $5000 integrated -generally- be considered equivalent in standing to a great $2500 preamp plus a great $2500 power amp? The answer's probably no, but I thought it would be interesting to see.
lousyreeds1
Well, I am not sure about a consensus being achieved on anything in this crazy hobby, but I do have an integrated which for me solved the issue of matching a preamp and amp.
I got a Musical Fidelty A 300. Was pretty happy with it but.....

Not one to leave well enough alone, I am having it modded by the experts at Tube Research Labs for their standard $550 mod fee which they charge for digital, dacs, transports, etc.

By the way, they are just debuting their new ST 225(225Wx2)integrated SS amp which they feel is quite a performer at the $5500 price point.
Considering they usually make $20-100K+ preamps and amps-this is a new venture by them of note.
I have a friend who is trying it with his Soundlabs which they feel it will handle, so they must have a lot of confidence in the unit.

I bought my Plinius 8150 integrated in New Zealand, the country of manufacture. So I didn't have to pay transportation costs for an import or any agent or distributor markups. At the price there are no separates that come anywhere near its performance. Maybe it is not so clearcut where Plinius is competing overseas.
Plinius 9100 & 9200 are definitely on my short list. I have to drive about 6 hours to hear one though, unless I care to order without an audition.
Have not an integrated yet with a TVC.

Pots and electonic/digital volume attenuators leave something to be desired IMHO.

YMMV of course.
If I were into SS sound I would have an integrated amp provided it had high power and current delivery capacity so it could drive different speakers easily. That way I wouldn't have to buy a new unit if I changed speakers. But I'm not.....

I like tubes and I like the flexibility of being able to make tonal adjustments by just changing tubes to accomodate different placements, rooms, speakers or new source equipment. Having a pre-amp gives me one more location to make changes (although I rarely mess with the pre-amp). Tinkering can be fun on a rainy day! :-)