Can HI FI components really make music?


Hello everyone. I am posting this question possibly a bit early but I am getting frustrated and am about to throw in the towel, sell everything and buy a Bose wave radio and call it good. My question is does a good HI FI system ever really sound like live music? At this point I think not. I have been in this hobby for about 7 years and just can't seem to get there. Even the system at the local "hi end" dealer does not come close to live music. My system has evolved over the years to the following:

Wadia 861 CD
VTL MB 125 mono blocks
Supratek Chennin Pre
(2) Vandy 2WQ subs
Vandy 3A Sig
Cardas Golden Cross inter con
Kimber Bifocal XL spk cable
Vandy model 5 Xover

All this gear is in a 13x35x8 room. Although the sound is quite good. Better than most any other system Ive heard it still has a long way to go. In all fairness the 3As are not completely broken in but I dont think they will improve to the extent I want them to over the course of the next 30 hrs. My dealers solution is that I should get rid of the Supratek and replace with a VTL 5.5. I dont think so. Been there done that. Although the VTL is decent it cant compete with the Supra.

At this point I think maybe the VTL 125s are just not sophisticated or powerful enough to give me the sound Im looking for. I think they are the weak link along with cabling. I stated earlyer that the dealers system doesnt do it for me either and I think that may be due to the fact that their biggest amp is 185 wpc. Im thinking maybe a sophisticated amp with say 400 wpc might get me there with the 3As. I dont know... but I am not willing to spend 100K to what I want nor could I afford to.

For those of you that are still with me any and all input welcome. I am not one of those thin skinned audiophiles that cries like a baby when someone has the audacity to insult their precious gear. So fire away.

Thanks
braro
If you really enjoy music, I would recommend more then background music. You could rebuild a simple system after researching which would be emotionally involving to listen to at more exciting volumes without being critical. My system lends itself to just enjoying the music. I do not have a very expensive system, but one which is painstakingly put together. I believe many music lovers out there have systems they enjoy. In my particular system, I believe a few things have made a real difference.
1. A CDP with very low jitter distortion aided by a digital filter in the AC line. Excellent mechanical isolation.
2. Much of my collection are JVC XR CDs which are phenominally musical.
3. My preamp and amp both have single voicing with only one output device per channel
4. My speakers were designed meticulosly for seemless 3 dimensional silky reproduction.
5. Proper AC line purification has helped a great deal
6. Sistrum speaker stands made a real difference.

The secret is focusing more on the music and less on the system, but the state of the art is too good to throw in the towel. My system has no glare, edge, haze, grit, brightness, veiling, dullness, dryness, coldness, overly sweet or overly warm, mechanical, "digital sounding" or any of those negative qualities. It just sounds, natural, nonfatiguing, musical with nice bloom, harmonically rich and accurate timbre. I suspect there are thousands out there with similar results. Please don't give up!
You should at least try to audition some different speakers, especially given the honest feedback you have received from many in this thread. You are going to sell them anyway, so sell them. Seek out a few suggestions, make a short-list, do some auditions, and see if it gets you closer.

My bet is if you sell everything, it will nag and nag you until you are all back in again in a couple of years.
Sheffb, I think your comments are valid but can't find any info on your speakers. Links to more info ????

Just curious
What you are after is possible, but do not expect ANY stock consumer gear to deliver the dynamics or clarity of a live performance. I dont care if you spend $150K, you will not get it. You should consider modifications of a piece that you really like the sound and ergonomics of. This article explains why this phenomena exists:
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue15/modsnugent.htm

I have personally found that virtually everything in a typical system needs mods in order to deliver a dynamic live sound, or whatever was on the source tape, even the speakers.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Manufacturer/modder
Herman, my speakers are Chapman Q6 three way towers. I have reviewed them on Audiogon and the other forum. The address and telephone number of the manufacturer are included. These were prototype speakers two years ago, but since then Stuart Jones made a pair for himself and a few other old customers. He does not sell through dealers nor advertise at this time to my knowlege. He said he was planning a web site. Stuart is very amiable, knowlegeable and I feel sure would be happy to talk to any audiophile on the phone. His speakers are well priced. He uses state of the art components. The Chapman T7s have been reviewed and well liked; also his former flagship the Q7s are even better,but the Q6s are probably his best accomplishment in 35 years because he has acheived better more three demensional imaging and sound staging. These are silky smooth organic sounding speakers, also. Just very natural.