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That's what it's all about

I received an email from another Audiogon member yesterday telling me that he was on Ebay and happened to find a listing for a pair of Kharma Ceramique CE 1.0s that looked suspiciously identical to an ad that I have presently running here on Audiogon. I went to Ebay and sure enough, there was the ad with the exact same pictures and copy from my ad originating from some person in the UK with no feedback. I tried to contact Ebay to let then know what was going on and I even had to register with Ebay to lodge a complaint. They noted that it might be as long as 36 hours before they might be able to respond and by that time the auction for "my" speakers could be over. I guess this kind of thing happens all the time, but I would have never thought much about it or been made aware exept another kind member, Dave Frigo, cared enough to advise me. That's what Audiogon is all about...Thanks Dave... Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!!
ucmgr
slipknot1
1,423 posts
 
Zenith,
My threat-to-sue was more or less tongue-in-cheek. Our society is way too litgious in my book. I was just stunned to see such a pre-emptive move on EBay's part without starting a dispute resolution process first, or, even getting some kind of respose from me. Ucmgr's situation and mine should serve as a warning to others that EBay does seem to be rife with rip-off artists. EBay does have a right to protect itself, and try to protect the honest folks who do business there.
zenieth
381 posts
 
Slipnot1

I couldn't agree more with you about society today. The key word is "try" to protect. Rip off artists are in all walks of life. Ebay is just one of those massive breading grounds. The internet is still very young. And we will see a lot worse in time to come. I hope you get your situation rectified. And I'm sure lots of others are in the same boat too.
slappy
903 posts
 
I dont see the big deal about somone using your pic for thier set they are selling.

I dunno what a vandersteen 1b looks like, never seen one but i have an idea. I have been unable to find any pictures of these on the net.
If i was selling a set, i had no digital camera, and i thought it would help to put a picure of them and i found somone selling a set with a pic, i would probably throw it in.

However, i would also sure as hell state that the picture is not of the actual pair im selling, and go into detail to describe the condition.
ucmgr OP
160 posts
 
Slappy,
I could have less if he used my photos. The Kharma site has some that look a whole lot better than mine, so I guess I should be flattered that he thought mine were acceptable. But the exact same six pictures along with a carbon copy of my text is a little too much wouldn't you say? I've got to believe that whoever listed them on Ebay might have a had a little different intention than "borrowing" a couple of pictures because he was photographically challanged!!!
slappy
903 posts
 
Yeah, you definatly have a point there. Using the exact same text is pretty sad. I would definatly tend to think this is some sort of a scam.
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