does Sirius sat have a refrence tuner???

Sirius financial figures are in deep doo-doo!!!

Trailing PE -8.48
Forward PE -8.76

[That's right, both PE's are NEGATIVE!]

Take a look at the company's financials, if you really want to get scared. Their liabilities far outweigh their assets. They have a NEGATIVE cash flow, which is getting worse [$616.7 million in 2004, $219 million in 2003]. Earnings were -$0.57/share in 2004 and -$0.38/share in 2003. Although this is an improvement of a whopping -$6.34/share in 2002. Hasn't turned a profit in 4 years. [Can anyone say "Dot Com Bubble?] Too much of a crap shoot in my book!

I could give a rats ass about financials, all I wanted to know was about a tuner, if you need to play the market go watch Bulls and Bears on FOX

Chadnliz, fine. Go out and buy an expensive Sirius reference tuner. And in a year, it may be about as valuable as an 8-track tape player! Do you remember Iridium satellite telephone service? Apparently, you have no understanding about product introduction, financing, and marketing needed to make it a viable consumer success. I was replying to Audioparts as well as your statement:

Sirius isn't going anywhere

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Hey, they'd love a mark like you in Las Vegas!

I guess this might compare to folks whom bought their own Voom boxes at $800.----'Don't have to go as far back as 8trk.

Chadnliz,

I got Sirius via Dish network. It comes with most of their programming packages. No equipment to buy. I thought about getting the Kenwood but this was cheaper as I cancelled my other satellite service. I am using the 811 receiver and the sound is good.